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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2309921" data-attributes="member: 307">Well, this brings up an interesting point:Many people complain about a lot of elements of the D&D rules as put forward. They will vociferously argue that this or that is "broken", "overpowered" or otherwise a problem with the game (in this thread, it happens to have been PrCs that have been targeted). They talki blithely about various "super-powerful" combinations and decry the terrible results thus produced, alleging all kinds of abstract examples of abuse and horror.And then you ask them to demonstrate, concretely, their argument. You ask them to put out an example, detailed out, of the problem combination, or problem class, in order to compare the result with the standard options that are an accepted part of the game.And guess what? Nine times out of ten, they, like DungeonMaster, will turn tail and run. When subjected to the rigors of actually producing an example of the offending character build, they become strangely silent. Because when they were talking about the various combinations they were ranting about they didn't take into account other options, the limitations on a character's resources, and so on.The funny thing in this thread is that DungeonMaster suggested making example characters, within some very standard parameters. And I pointed out I had already done that, but if he thought he could do better with his side of the argument to make an example of his own. Thus far, the sum total of his response has been to complain, ineffectually, about the examples provided. But he hasn't provided his own example.I think that says everything that needs to be said about his opinions concerning the broken nature of prestige classes in general, and prestige classes in the DMG specifically. He demanded examples. I said put your money where your mouth is. His money is nowhere to be seen.</blockquote>

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