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<blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2311034" data-attributes="member: 27431">Agreed 100% that's why I said &quot;as if it matters&quot;. It doesn't. Any reasonable person that knows the system will tell you a spellcaster able to cast 5th level magic can kill a spellcaster that can cast 6th. That's fruitless discussion. Even the &quot;cohort&quot; argument is moronic, all you really need is to charm some monster, like a hydra or a spellcasting outsider, or a naga, or an NPC. If you treat them well they'll follow you and help you out. Or use planar ally for instance, which he has. The point is URGE here is doing what 2 characters do. That's the gold standard of balance - stealing the role of other characters. Even stealing 50% of the role of other characters is broken in my opininon - let alone casting &quot;spell resistance&quot; and having ludicrous saves, and then maximize-empowered-fireballing. &quot;Beware the all powerful hybrid that has the firepower of a wizard and the healing power of a cleric&quot;. Those are the words from the 3rd edition DMG under designing classes. And besides, the MT is from the stats #3 most banned so I can't be that out of step of general opinion .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DungeonMaster, post: 2311034, member: 27431"] Agreed 100% that's why I said "as if it matters". It doesn't. Any reasonable person that knows the system will tell you a spellcaster able to cast 5th level magic can kill a spellcaster that can cast 6th. That's fruitless discussion. Even the "cohort" argument is moronic, all you really need is to charm some monster, like a hydra or a spellcasting outsider, or a naga, or an NPC. If you treat them well they'll follow you and help you out. Or use planar ally for instance, which he has. The point is URGE here is doing what 2 characters do. That's the gold standard of balance - stealing the role of other characters. Even stealing 50% of the role of other characters is [b] broken [/b] in my opininon - let alone casting "spell resistance" and having ludicrous saves, and then maximize-empowered-fireballing. "Beware the all powerful hybrid that has the firepower of a wizard and the healing power of a cleric". Those are the words from the 3rd edition DMG under designing classes. And besides, the MT is from the stats #3 most banned so I can't be [i] that out of step of general opinion [/i]. [/QUOTE]

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