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Which PrCl would you never want in your game? (part 1 - DMG)
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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2311842" data-attributes="member: 307"><p>It's a rat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I pretty much can. You can cast 5 3rd level wizard spells, I can cast 6. You can cast 4 4th level wizard spells, I can cast 5. You can cast 3 5th level wizard spells, I can cast 4. Every time you use a spell slot, I can match it with an equal spell. And I haven't added in the fact that the cleric cohort can cast more spells than you as well.</p><p></p><p>You can cast two spells per round for three rounds out of the day. I can do it 28 rounds per day (not counting cantrips and orisons).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I just don't need them to cast two spells per round. Having two casters does that. You use the rods to patch a weakness, a weakness my character doesn't have. So I don't need them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have more combined hit points than you by a huge margin. My wizard has 55.5, the cleric has 78.5. Urge only has 52.5. My wizard <em>by himself</em> has more hit points than you.</p><p></p><p>The wizard has an AC only a few points less than yours, while the cleric has an AC a fair amount higher. Being able to cast <em>shield</em> (since he can use abjurations) makes up the difference (much of your AC comes from a first level spell, so mine can counter). You lose most of your AC when flat-footed too (it drops to 14, touch AC 10, I hope you aren't targeted with a touch spell before you can act).</p><p></p><p>Saves? I have SR, you don't. My save totals are almost as high as yours in every category, even for the cohort (who gets save bonuses against things like spells, and has enough hit points to take more punishment to begin with). I think you need to actually read what has been written.</p><p></p><p>And raw firepower? I have 6th level spells. I can blast things far better than you ever could hope to. My save DCs are <em>far</em> higher than yours, since you keep insisting on using metamagiced 3rd level spells. While you monkey about with <em>fireballs</em>, I'll be using things like <em>chain lightning</em>, <em>cone of cold</em>, and <em>cloudkill</em>, you know, higher level spells.</p><p></p><p>I have a higher caster level. My base save DCs are higher. My spell penetration is better.</p><p></p><p>So, you were saying?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you have that backwards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 2311842, member: 307"] It's a rat. [i][/i] Yeah, I pretty much can. You can cast 5 3rd level wizard spells, I can cast 6. You can cast 4 4th level wizard spells, I can cast 5. You can cast 3 5th level wizard spells, I can cast 4. Every time you use a spell slot, I can match it with an equal spell. And I haven't added in the fact that the cleric cohort can cast more spells than you as well. You can cast two spells per round for three rounds out of the day. I can do it 28 rounds per day (not counting cantrips and orisons). [i][/i] No, I just don't need them to cast two spells per round. Having two casters does that. You use the rods to patch a weakness, a weakness my character doesn't have. So I don't need them. [i][/i] I have more combined hit points than you by a huge margin. My wizard has 55.5, the cleric has 78.5. Urge only has 52.5. My wizard [i]by himself[/i] has more hit points than you. The wizard has an AC only a few points less than yours, while the cleric has an AC a fair amount higher. Being able to cast [i]shield[/i] (since he can use abjurations) makes up the difference (much of your AC comes from a first level spell, so mine can counter). You lose most of your AC when flat-footed too (it drops to 14, touch AC 10, I hope you aren't targeted with a touch spell before you can act). Saves? I have SR, you don't. My save totals are almost as high as yours in every category, even for the cohort (who gets save bonuses against things like spells, and has enough hit points to take more punishment to begin with). I think you need to actually read what has been written. And raw firepower? I have 6th level spells. I can blast things far better than you ever could hope to. My save DCs are [i]far[/i] higher than yours, since you keep insisting on using metamagiced 3rd level spells. While you monkey about with [i]fireballs[/i], I'll be using things like [i]chain lightning[/i], [i]cone of cold[/i], and [i]cloudkill[/i], you know, higher level spells. I have a higher caster level. My base save DCs are higher. My spell penetration is better. So, you were saying? [i][/i] I think you have that backwards. [/QUOTE]
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