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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2317138" data-attributes="member: 27431">I might say that not just you have failed to see my point, repeatedly.  And the rest of the time there's a willingness to ignore it, which is intellectually dishonest. If we're all playing fair ball, and I'll retract my claims of dishonesty, I'de like to see  your "total spell levels *analysis*" for the MT+cohort vs. wis+cohort. And claim total crushing victory for the Urge. I'de also like to see some admission that the addition of druidic magic is a crushing advantage. And that my caster level to break SR is equal to your wizards. And I'll spend the remaining cash not on the rod but on a bigger headband of intellect so the DC is the same. And that despite all claims to the contrary, your wizard's robe of the archmagi isn't any less "contrived" than my character's gear in terms of when you could acquire it, friendly high level wizards lending you their spellbooks not withstanding.Then we can discuss that in reality, you have a mere +2 caster level difference, 2 extra feats , and a handful of 6th level spells versus a metric truckload of lower level ones and a character is significantly greater in survivability, in saves, AC, hp and well.</blockquote>