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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guilt Puppy" data-source="post: 1775777" data-attributes="member: 6521">Looking at it race by race:Humans: Not shafted, not one bit. None of the racial mods match the bonus feat.Dwarves: Definitely not shafted... As many have pointed out, they're pretty much the best race mechanically. The only downside in 3E was speed... And that's largely removed in 3.5.Elves: I wouldn't quite give them the shaft mechanically... That -2 Con is unappealing, but +2 Dex is better than most people give credit, and then there are a whole slew of racial abilities to follow. I think they're a bit above average, mechanics-wise.Gnomes: Also close to average. The -2 Str is a big penalty, even for Wizards, but size bonuses, miscellaneous racial abilities, and the vaunted +2 Con all make up for it just fine.Half-elves: Mechanically, I think they might be at a slight disadvantage, but not as much as most people really make 'em out to be... Really, I think it's just a lack of distinguishing goodies which makes them seem so shafted.Half-orcs: Probably the most shafted. Not as much as some people argue, I'd say -- that +2 Str is worth the extra minuses and lack of extra goodies, for a tank... The main reason they feel so shafted, though, is that while they slightly outclass, say, a human in one specific character build (after you take into account the lack of bonus feat, et cetera), they fall far behind everyone if you try to use them for any other character type. Monks and Rangers are pretty much the only non-tank classes they can be competitive at, and they're still at a slight loss (for lack of extra skills, racial abilities, et cetera)Halflings: Second only to dwarves. Not shafted a bit.So, I'd have to declare Half-Orcs the winner of my most-shafted award... But really, the more I look at it, the more I have to say the races are pretty well-balanced.</blockquote>

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