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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 3096307" data-attributes="member: 8158">At least you give up a spell to get that. It's not as gross as the 1st-level dwarf fighter substitution level. On top of gaining the benefit of Weapon Focus with all axes, it grants d12 hit dice. Is there some give-and-take there I just missed? It's described as giving up some versatility, but since substitution levels are completely a la care--you just take the levels that appeal to you--that's pretty much a joke.The goliath's win the prize for "Most Broken New Race". Even with the +1 LA, it's still pretty over-the-top. The Powerful Size racial trait is rather lame--I'm large, but only when I wanna be. Seems to me that if you're on the cusp between medium large, you shouldn't get full large-size benefits when it comes things like grapple checks and wielding large-sized weapons. You should get halfway benefits.In general, I like Races of Stone--exotic armors and shields were way overdue--but of the entire series it is the powergaming fighter's book of choice, rather like the dwarf race itself.I voted for Races of the Wild. It offers up some interesting options without going overboard. The raptorans present a nice balanced approach to a flying race. I also liked the bows that can be used staves in a pinch and the various types of specialty arrows. The only thing that strikes me as completely nuts in that book is the ruathar prestige class.</blockquote>