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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7865998" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Essentials went off the 4e rails, like trainwreck off the rails, in dragging the Fighter, Thief, and Ranger back into their traditional stereotypes. The Fighter(Slayer) <em>could</em> be quite deadly with a bow, the Ranger(Scout & Hunter) were both obligatory druid-like (Primal) casters. But, at 2 whole years into the run, and not actually deprecating the existing Fighter, Warlord & Ranger, they were 'too little, too late.' </p><p></p><p>BTWO, one thing that we haven't seen since 3e is the stunning concept of bows with a pull. I know, it's whacky, but in this strange universe called reality, all bows cannot be strung and pulled by just anyone who can so much as lift them, they require strength - sometimes considerable strength - and send arrows downrange with proportionally greater force. D&D optionally, vaguely, handled that with ranged weapons 'made for strength' or something like that, and the slightly more poetic 'Mighty' bows of 3e (though, only composite bows, for some reason).</p><p></p><p>Since 3e we've had finesse weapons that let DEX fake being STR for melee, but the closest we've come to that for STR faking it at ranged is 'heavy thrown.' </p><p>'Heavy Pull' bows that let you use STR instead of DEX wouldn't exactly be nonsense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7865998, member: 996"] Essentials went off the 4e rails, like trainwreck off the rails, in dragging the Fighter, Thief, and Ranger back into their traditional stereotypes. The Fighter(Slayer) [I]could[/I] be quite deadly with a bow, the Ranger(Scout & Hunter) were both obligatory druid-like (Primal) casters. But, at 2 whole years into the run, and not actually deprecating the existing Fighter, Warlord & Ranger, they were 'too little, too late.' BTWO, one thing that we haven't seen since 3e is the stunning concept of bows with a pull. I know, it's whacky, but in this strange universe called reality, all bows cannot be strung and pulled by just anyone who can so much as lift them, they require strength - sometimes considerable strength - and send arrows downrange with proportionally greater force. D&D optionally, vaguely, handled that with ranged weapons 'made for strength' or something like that, and the slightly more poetic 'Mighty' bows of 3e (though, only composite bows, for some reason). Since 3e we've had finesse weapons that let DEX fake being STR for melee, but the closest we've come to that for STR faking it at ranged is 'heavy thrown.' 'Heavy Pull' bows that let you use STR instead of DEX wouldn't exactly be nonsense. [/QUOTE]
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