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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 3256731" data-attributes="member: 9225">I don't know about that. It looks like he'd been fighting the clonetroopers *before* we see him and it spills out to the walkway. So he's actually *tougher* than his screen time permits. You can't really say the clones just have "wounds," since we're not really assuming any system (though it is a good argument for SWd20).In any event, the argument that Jedi level up as adolescents always struck me as disingenuous, since few people are going to play 12 year old 1st level Jedi. You can play older 1st level Jedi during the OT era, maybe.Really, what we know from the movies is that a trained Jedi (or Sith) is:1) Better than almost any number of average troops, including battledroids.2) Equal to shielded destroyer droids, *squads* of clones and giant monsters.3) In the movies, there are purpose-built droids that truly exceptional characters that might beat a Jedi in single combat. We've got one or two bounty hunters, General Grievous, (maybe) his droid guards.4) Known to be so bad*ss that when Darth Maul shows up, an entire platoon on Naboo decides to take the long way around instead of go through him.5) Known to be so bad*ss that the Trade Federation is frightened of having 2 Jedi visit them, and terrified when Darth Maul is revealed.6) Known to be so bad*ss that nobody talks about sending a horde of clones to kill Count Dooku, because that wouldn't be reliable.Jedi seem pretty good at almost anything they attempt, really. This doesn't mean they *are* good at everything, but this includes a lot of "adventure skills," even if they aren't rich or politically adept (which are things that hose them in the prequels). They also don't seem to pilot big vessels, either and certainly don't know  much about "Han Solo" kind of work. I think you can make them no good with hand blasters, too, even though Obi-Wan shoots Grievous nicely, as that's a suprise dramatic kind of thing.You basically have three canon "hero classes" in the series: Jedi types, Han Solo types (sumggler/rogue/expert) and Leia types. You can add bounty hunters and soldiers to this, even though they're never hero characters in the films. Oddly, even though people like techie and medic types, the indication from the films is that droids do that kind of work. Naturally, that means PC droids, too. But when it comes to equal levels of story influence, Han, Luke and Leia are it.</blockquote>

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