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<blockquote data-quote="Sunglar" data-source="post: 3300788" data-attributes="member: 854"><p>I’m alive… ALIVE!</p><p></p><p>Well I’m back and have to say I am sorry for simply having disappeared. I don’t know if you guys are still interested in this discussion, but I will answer the questions Diggus put forth and were left unanswered.</p><p></p><p>(The partying was too good this pas weekend, then work and some partying that spilled over into Tuesday, alas, but I digress…)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is all long before the campaign starts…</p><p></p><p>The Jedi prestige is suffering due to a few factors. First of all imagine the Jedi as more subdued, not over the top super warriors as they were portrayed in the prequels, but as robed or armored supernatural warriors that for a long time were the peace keepers in the unlawful regions of space as exploration expanded beyond the core worlds. I postulate that hyperspace travel took longer and the Jedi swooped down to solve a problem not always explaining their actions or rationale to the population.</p><p></p><p>As these worlds became civilized and traditional forms of law enforcement took over the Jedi’s role was less and less important. At the same time hyperspace travel became more and more efficient. The need for the lone or small pack of powerful protectors in the wilderness lessened. The Outer Rim was explored and colonized in a time when ships could arrive in a matter of hours in case of trouble, communication in the vastness of space in nearly instantaneous. Local governments and power structures came to distrusts the Jedi who in effect answered to no one but themselves and their moral code.</p><p></p><p>I realize in the SW universe the Jedi had arrangements with the Republic leadership, but in my vision it was less clear, nor set in stone, and even if it was there, the officials that followed did not necessarily agree with the idea.</p><p></p><p>To make a real world analogy, (sorry for simplifying history like this!) the Catholic Church’s role was lessened as the Middle Ages ended, the reformation occurred and there was a shift on the intellectual and economic European landscape. The prestige, indeed the importance or priesthood (here as an analogy to the Jedi) lessened. To the point where the role the Catholic Church plays today, and the number of priests, the ease of recruitment of new priests, has changed dramatically. (I don’t intend to lessen or offend anyone by this, I am merely using the historical reality of the faith to illustrate a point, o slight or disrespect is meant!)</p><p></p><p>Add to that the fact that they arranged the peace 1 thousand years before the campaign starts, which to all effects, splintered the Republic, while the measure was originally viewed positively for a very brief period of time, it caused more grief and strife for the common man. The perception of the masses is the Jedi arranged the peace only to benefit them, as many claimed small protectorates over systems in which they had influence. These protectorates were not large, when compared to other blocks and alliances, but were protected by powerful Jedi.</p><p></p><p>The Republic, splintered as it is has no say over the Jedi protectorates. They do not take over the day to day rule of the planets over their care; they simply act as law keepers. Depending on the order their influence in the day to day rules of system is greater or lesser, more or less subtle.</p><p></p><p>As for the reason the Jedi Council split and no longer lets I’ve decided on the why!</p><p></p><p>The Jedi Council never was the all powerful ruling body seen in the movies. It was emerged out of the necessity of fighting the Sith well over a thousand years ago. It was a meeting of the leaders of the different orders to plan and coordinate their tactics, but never took over as a hegemonic body to rule all Jedi, the leaders of the orders kept their power and protected in zealously.</p><p></p><p>After the defeat of the Sith its importance was lessened. The Council finally stopped meeting over 25 years ago over two matters. First (and I’m running and integrating some of the ideas you all have put forth) the other orders decided to take action against the religious sect and the perceived taint of the dark side in their beliefs. The Military Order moved in and destroyed their power base and eradicated their influence in the core worlds. The religious sect only survives in the outer rim.</p><p></p><p>The Meditative Order opposed the actions of the Military sect as they used the attack on the religious sect as an excuse to grab more territory and annex it into their protectorate, making them players in the larger politics of the splintered Republic. The practice of taking children as infants was also a point of contention, but to a lesser degree.</p><p></p><p>How does that sound?</p><p></p><p>I have more plans and I’d be happy to keep discussing them if you are interested, here or in another thread.</p><p></p><p>Just a teaser, two of the main NPCs in the first adventures of the campaign will be a young Bail Organa, and Tungurahua the Hutt, an albino tattooed member of the hutt species.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunglar, post: 3300788, member: 854"] I’m alive… ALIVE! Well I’m back and have to say I am sorry for simply having disappeared. I don’t know if you guys are still interested in this discussion, but I will answer the questions Diggus put forth and were left unanswered. (The partying was too good this pas weekend, then work and some partying that spilled over into Tuesday, alas, but I digress…) This is all long before the campaign starts… The Jedi prestige is suffering due to a few factors. First of all imagine the Jedi as more subdued, not over the top super warriors as they were portrayed in the prequels, but as robed or armored supernatural warriors that for a long time were the peace keepers in the unlawful regions of space as exploration expanded beyond the core worlds. I postulate that hyperspace travel took longer and the Jedi swooped down to solve a problem not always explaining their actions or rationale to the population. As these worlds became civilized and traditional forms of law enforcement took over the Jedi’s role was less and less important. At the same time hyperspace travel became more and more efficient. The need for the lone or small pack of powerful protectors in the wilderness lessened. The Outer Rim was explored and colonized in a time when ships could arrive in a matter of hours in case of trouble, communication in the vastness of space in nearly instantaneous. Local governments and power structures came to distrusts the Jedi who in effect answered to no one but themselves and their moral code. I realize in the SW universe the Jedi had arrangements with the Republic leadership, but in my vision it was less clear, nor set in stone, and even if it was there, the officials that followed did not necessarily agree with the idea. To make a real world analogy, (sorry for simplifying history like this!) the Catholic Church’s role was lessened as the Middle Ages ended, the reformation occurred and there was a shift on the intellectual and economic European landscape. The prestige, indeed the importance or priesthood (here as an analogy to the Jedi) lessened. To the point where the role the Catholic Church plays today, and the number of priests, the ease of recruitment of new priests, has changed dramatically. (I don’t intend to lessen or offend anyone by this, I am merely using the historical reality of the faith to illustrate a point, o slight or disrespect is meant!) Add to that the fact that they arranged the peace 1 thousand years before the campaign starts, which to all effects, splintered the Republic, while the measure was originally viewed positively for a very brief period of time, it caused more grief and strife for the common man. The perception of the masses is the Jedi arranged the peace only to benefit them, as many claimed small protectorates over systems in which they had influence. These protectorates were not large, when compared to other blocks and alliances, but were protected by powerful Jedi. The Republic, splintered as it is has no say over the Jedi protectorates. They do not take over the day to day rule of the planets over their care; they simply act as law keepers. Depending on the order their influence in the day to day rules of system is greater or lesser, more or less subtle. As for the reason the Jedi Council split and no longer lets I’ve decided on the why! The Jedi Council never was the all powerful ruling body seen in the movies. It was emerged out of the necessity of fighting the Sith well over a thousand years ago. It was a meeting of the leaders of the different orders to plan and coordinate their tactics, but never took over as a hegemonic body to rule all Jedi, the leaders of the orders kept their power and protected in zealously. After the defeat of the Sith its importance was lessened. The Council finally stopped meeting over 25 years ago over two matters. First (and I’m running and integrating some of the ideas you all have put forth) the other orders decided to take action against the religious sect and the perceived taint of the dark side in their beliefs. The Military Order moved in and destroyed their power base and eradicated their influence in the core worlds. The religious sect only survives in the outer rim. The Meditative Order opposed the actions of the Military sect as they used the attack on the religious sect as an excuse to grab more territory and annex it into their protectorate, making them players in the larger politics of the splintered Republic. The practice of taking children as infants was also a point of contention, but to a lesser degree. How does that sound? I have more plans and I’d be happy to keep discussing them if you are interested, here or in another thread. Just a teaser, two of the main NPCs in the first adventures of the campaign will be a young Bail Organa, and Tungurahua the Hutt, an albino tattooed member of the hutt species. [/QUOTE]
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