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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 7099786" data-attributes="member: 61026">One way to go back to having Favored Soul Sorcerers with domain magic (now that I have thought about it a little bit longer): Do it this way: (1) Favored Souls may choose their known Cantrips from any cantrip on the cleric spell list or the sorcerer spell list, but no more than half of any Favored Soul's known cantrips may be ones that are not on the Sorcerer spell list. (Want to take "Light?" That counts as either a Cleric cantrip or a Sorcerer cantrip, so go for it -- even if you already know a couple of other Cleric cantrips!) (2) DOMAIN CASTING: At 1st level, select a Domain from the list of Domains available to Clerics. Each Domain lists two spells of each of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th spell level. At 1st level, you learn one of the 1st-level spells listed for your selected Domain, and you also learn one other 1st-level spell from the Cleric spell list. This feature also gives you two more known spells at each of 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th sorcerer levels; and each time you gain these two more known spells at those levels, you learn one of the two listed spells for the domain (your choice) plus one other spell of the same level from the Cleric spell list. All of these spells count as sorcerer spells for you, and do not count against the number of sorcerer spells you can know. Also, the spells you learn with Domain Casting are subject to the usual rules for retraining as you gain new sorcerer levels, subject  to the following two restrictions: + (a) if you retrain one of your spells known from your Domain Casting feature, the new spell must be selected from the Cleric spell list; and + (b) you can never have more than half of the spells you know from your Domain Casting feature be spells that are not among the listed spells for your selected Domain.Yeah, I agree that this is a bit fiddly and complicated. However, it does offer a couple of benefits: (1) Make the Favored Soul be more similar to the existing Dragon Blood, Wild Mage, and Tempest sorcerer sub-classes in the sense of knowing at least some spells from the sorcerer spell list; and (2) Allowing individual Favored Souls to customize their access to Cleric spells to a slight degree, while still being faithful to their choice of Domain -- again, to a slight degree.Any Favored Soul would thereby be able to learn both of the listed spells for their domain when they learn new domain spells; but they wouldn't have to; and they would have the flexibility to retrain out the domain spell at any spell level provided they knew enough other domain spells to keep the ratio to no more than half non-domain. Example: Kiltrak the Cholic takes the Life Domain, and chooses to learn Bless from that domain list, but also to learn Healing Word, which is not on that domain list. At 3rd level, Kiltrak the Cholic learns two 2nd-level cleric spells; the ones available to him from the Life Domain are Lesser Restoration and Spiritual Weapon, so if he takes both of those, that gives him three spells from his Domain Casting feature that are from the listed spells for his domain. At the same time, he can retrain Bless to learn Bane instead (or any other 1st-level Cleric spell), because his two 2nd-spell-level domain spells count as half of his known spells from his Domain Casting feature, so he doesn't need either of his 1st-level spells from that feature to be from his domain list. The purpose is a smidgen of flexibility; the cost is greater complexity. Is it too much complexity for not enough flexibility?</blockquote>

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