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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 8073948" data-attributes="member: 6845520">Objectively I feel the alternative class variants already linked previously do largely address the concerns of the base class.In regards to beastmaster, it is less an issue of the pet's damage and action economy being complicated and more an two different issues of preference and performance. Those who complain about the action economy of how the PHB beast master work are not wrong in saying that they might not like the way one has to choose between trading attacks to let their beast act, but it is more so an opinion of what is "fun" or not than complaints of actual mechanical issues.Where the beastmaster does suffer mechanically is related to survivability of the pet. The PHB version of the class does not grant the beastmaster any way to really revive their pet other than as players do (which is costly and expensive), nor a way to heal their pet outside of the base rules of the game (the pet only gets 2 or 3 hit dice for short rests....ever and often results in the ranger spending all their spell slots just to heal their pet (or taxing their party healer's slots). Additionally, after 7th level or so the pet begins to start having severe survivability issues as AOE effects become outright lethal to pets, and the DM can't exactly be blamed for having an enemy wizard drop a fireball or cloudkill, even if it does result in a dead pet like 80% of the time. This is effectively no different than if one was to buy a dog or other animal with a low CR during high level play.The Revised Ranger Beastmaster largely fixes the survivability issues of the pet in spades, but I do think that the full base class redo is a bit overkill. You might consider using the ruleset from the revised UA version of the class (mainly for scaling concerns defensively) and then either force them to spend one attack to have their pet attack (as per PHB), or use their bonus action to have their pet take their actions (as per artificer). I would just give them the subclass abilities listed there at the appropriate levels (or as close to the original if they are different levels, I cannot remember at present), with one exception: leave off is the revised versions 5th level ability (which in the originally replaced Extra Attack), as as long as the pet gets one attack per round it is fine.</blockquote>

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