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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1681250" data-attributes="member: 707">Yes, I can see that possibility.While I disagree that a cohort should put you first over his mentor, even if it is in the interest of the party as a whole, I do see your point.  There are certainly situations where a cohort might use his abilities on other party members, because it is in the interests of his mentor for the party to be strong.  A template prevents the gained powers from being used on other party members (well, perhaps the cure spells gained from the template, but generally.)  Still I wonder whether this change in the nature of the power makes that power unbalancing.Yes, I can see your point.  The various "help me challenge the monk!" or "help me challenge the barbarian!" threads here on the boards attest to the veracity of what you say.  One extremely powerful PC can make DMing more difficult.  I do wonder whether the particular case I've presented is such a case, though.  While it's a nominal ECL +4, the template does not provide the kinds of upgrades I'd be most worried about: spell levels above normal, extra attacks, indefensible special abilities, etc.  Instead, it provides some stat bonuses (which as a whole are impressive, but to each individual stat are modest,) a small list of spells, most of which are curative in nature (certainly helpful to the party as a whole) and a nice set of defensive abilities (SR/DR/extra hp).  Is that enough to make the paladin into a juggernaut?Naturally, I expect the paladin to become more powerful if this concept is approved and carried out.  But would he become powerful enough to send my DM running here to post a "how do I challenge my paladin?" thread? I'm not sure.Incidentally, though I've suggested the idea to my DM, I'm still not sure if I'll choose it, even if approved.  It occurs to me that I may be opening a pandora's box.  If I do this, then nothing prevents every other member of the party from doing the same, which then merely creates a general escalation of power.It was pointed out earlier that there'd probably be no question of a problem, if every other player already had a cohort.  Since nobody does, though, this creates a problem.*sigh*  I'm still giving it thought, though I'm beginning to come to the depressing conclusion that Leadership simply won't be possible in any form.  The party's too large for the traditional cohort, and every non-traditional cohort I've thought of seems unbalanced or unfair in some way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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