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<blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 4038672" data-attributes="member: 40245"><p>Commenting as a player... And admittedly as as someone who didn't read every detail of the last couple of pages (so I appologize if I ask a question that was already answered).</p><p></p><p>I don't like the sound of this last dungeoun. Magic immune golumns and high DR undead? That would put any primary spellcaster into a slump. I have no problem with letting others have the limelight, but I want to be useful in the session as a whole if not a particular fight. And I will always want to be useful in the Big Bad fight even if I'm not fighting the big bad. Maybe I'm keeping the lower level masses off the people fighting the big bad. Maybe I'm the one running around with potions and scrolls keeping others up and fighting. Sure, I won't be the one to steal the spotlight for that session, but at least I'll be doing SOMETHING. Those golums fights I when it was my turn I literaly said "I twiddle my thumbs" because I had nothing to do. I looked over my character sheet. I had run out of acid based spells and items. My crossbow wasn't getting past the DR of the critters. I... had... nothing! That session was not fun.</p><p></p><p>I have sat out multiple fights in a row (magic immunity issues). One fight was okay, it was designed to let the fighters shine and they deserved to. The problem was that it happened two or three fights in a row. I was very, very bored by the end of the session. Fortunately my DM learned his lesson and it hasn't happened since (at least from my point of view).</p><p></p><p>A tip to DMs: even if it doesn't make much sense, put something in the dungeon for the PC you know is going to get hosed for the session. Very high spell resistance? FInd something that doesn't have it. Golumn and undead? Have vermin or spiders for the rogue to backstab. It'll go a long way to say "I know this session will not be your best and I am sorry."</p><p></p><p>And for verification...</p><p></p><p>Did I pick up that they are a 10th level party with 15th level gear? That could easily be the cause of battles either being too-easy (too good gear for 10th level fights) or too-hard (don't have the stats for a 15th level fight). That is not easy to balance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jedi_Solo, post: 4038672, member: 40245"] Commenting as a player... And admittedly as as someone who didn't read every detail of the last couple of pages (so I appologize if I ask a question that was already answered). I don't like the sound of this last dungeoun. Magic immune golumns and high DR undead? That would put any primary spellcaster into a slump. I have no problem with letting others have the limelight, but I want to be useful in the session as a whole if not a particular fight. And I will always want to be useful in the Big Bad fight even if I'm not fighting the big bad. Maybe I'm keeping the lower level masses off the people fighting the big bad. Maybe I'm the one running around with potions and scrolls keeping others up and fighting. Sure, I won't be the one to steal the spotlight for that session, but at least I'll be doing SOMETHING. Those golums fights I when it was my turn I literaly said "I twiddle my thumbs" because I had nothing to do. I looked over my character sheet. I had run out of acid based spells and items. My crossbow wasn't getting past the DR of the critters. I... had... nothing! That session was not fun. I have sat out multiple fights in a row (magic immunity issues). One fight was okay, it was designed to let the fighters shine and they deserved to. The problem was that it happened two or three fights in a row. I was very, very bored by the end of the session. Fortunately my DM learned his lesson and it hasn't happened since (at least from my point of view). A tip to DMs: even if it doesn't make much sense, put something in the dungeon for the PC you know is going to get hosed for the session. Very high spell resistance? FInd something that doesn't have it. Golumn and undead? Have vermin or spiders for the rogue to backstab. It'll go a long way to say "I know this session will not be your best and I am sorry." And for verification... Did I pick up that they are a 10th level party with 15th level gear? That could easily be the cause of battles either being too-easy (too good gear for 10th level fights) or too-hard (don't have the stats for a 15th level fight). That is not easy to balance. [/QUOTE]
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