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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 4053852" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>Making it hard and making it <em>impossible</em> are two different things. You may be totally happy having the DM mechanically nerf all of your charcter's special abilites, making them totally useless as a result. A lot of people don't like that. I don't know about you but, when I play RPGs, I play for fun. Having the GM nullify my character for an entire game session or three, making it impossible for me to do most (if not all) of the things that I created my character to do is <em>not</em> fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What <em>I</em> don't get is that you don't get that having the DM use fiat to veto the power of every choice you made when creating a charcter, effectively turning them into the mechanical equivalent of a 0-Level NPC, might not be fun for a lot of people. If you can't play the character you create, or you're not allowed to anything by way of GM fiat, why would you even bother to show up? At that point, there isn't much 'game' at all. It's tantamount to showing up for a 'game' of Monopoly and not being allowed to buy property or spend money, only roll dice.</p><p></p><p>If complaining about not being allowed to play the charcter I designed makes me a "whiner" in your games, I think it's safe to say that I'd find your games horribly, horribly, unfun. When I play D&D, for example, and I create a wizard, I expect to be actually be <em>playing a wizard</em>. Not a 'wizard' without powers who can't do anything heroic because the GM designed the "adventuere" specifically to nerf all of my powers. When I sign up for D&D, I expect to play D&D, not 0-Level Potato Farmers with Unuseable PC Class Abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 4053852, member: 13892"] Making it hard and making it [i]impossible[/i] are two different things. You may be totally happy having the DM mechanically nerf all of your charcter's special abilites, making them totally useless as a result. A lot of people don't like that. I don't know about you but, when I play RPGs, I play for fun. Having the GM nullify my character for an entire game session or three, making it impossible for me to do most (if not all) of the things that I created my character to do is [i]not[/i] fun. What [i]I[/i] don't get is that you don't get that having the DM use fiat to veto the power of every choice you made when creating a charcter, effectively turning them into the mechanical equivalent of a 0-Level NPC, might not be fun for a lot of people. If you can't play the character you create, or you're not allowed to anything by way of GM fiat, why would you even bother to show up? At that point, there isn't much 'game' at all. It's tantamount to showing up for a 'game' of Monopoly and not being allowed to buy property or spend money, only roll dice. If complaining about not being allowed to play the charcter I designed makes me a "whiner" in your games, I think it's safe to say that I'd find your games horribly, horribly, unfun. When I play D&D, for example, and I create a wizard, I expect to be actually be [i]playing a wizard[/i]. Not a 'wizard' without powers who can't do anything heroic because the GM designed the "adventuere" specifically to nerf all of my powers. When I sign up for D&D, I expect to play D&D, not 0-Level Potato Farmers with Unuseable PC Class Abilities. [/QUOTE]
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