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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 4057534" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>Like I said I don't understand this. I have been in dungeon crawls where the rogue is getting to do a lot more than everyone else with his scouting, disarming traps and getting to with sneak attack do as much or more damage than the party fighter. The rogue shines in this situation. </p><p></p><p>So why should he always get to shine? In undead encounters cleric and paladins rock. There are times that party mage shines.</p><p></p><p>There is a big difference between never getting to shine and using all your abilities and sometimes not being able to.</p><p></p><p>And I think that it is a matter of balance not every encounter has to be planned so that everyone gets an equal chance to shine. As a DM you try and do your best but there are times that because of the plot and the encounter that it becomes impossible. Like rogues with undead or constructs.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I feel this way because I play in story heavy games as a player and a DM I like the world to make sense. Even if I am not using all my abilities during a session I am still contributing to the story. I hate missing sessions because for me being told what happened is not the same as seeing it happpen.</p><p></p><p>The people comparing it to monopoly I have this question have you ever played and the dice have been against you so you don't end with good property or even three of the same so you can't build? I have. If you did how did you behave? Did you whine and complain that this sucks and is unfun and throw your cards down and get huffy basically spoil everyone else's fun and whine about why did I bother to come? </p><p></p><p>Because that is exactly how I see the whine of ohh noo there are undead I can't sneak atttack why am I here this sucks there are iron golems and I am blaster mage that sucks or WTF you brought in monsters with SR that's is just unfair you are nerfing my character.</p><p></p><p>I would not play monopoly with someone who behaves this way and I don't want to play DnD withsome one who behaves this way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 4057534, member: 9037"] Like I said I don't understand this. I have been in dungeon crawls where the rogue is getting to do a lot more than everyone else with his scouting, disarming traps and getting to with sneak attack do as much or more damage than the party fighter. The rogue shines in this situation. So why should he always get to shine? In undead encounters cleric and paladins rock. There are times that party mage shines. There is a big difference between never getting to shine and using all your abilities and sometimes not being able to. And I think that it is a matter of balance not every encounter has to be planned so that everyone gets an equal chance to shine. As a DM you try and do your best but there are times that because of the plot and the encounter that it becomes impossible. Like rogues with undead or constructs. Maybe I feel this way because I play in story heavy games as a player and a DM I like the world to make sense. Even if I am not using all my abilities during a session I am still contributing to the story. I hate missing sessions because for me being told what happened is not the same as seeing it happpen. The people comparing it to monopoly I have this question have you ever played and the dice have been against you so you don't end with good property or even three of the same so you can't build? I have. If you did how did you behave? Did you whine and complain that this sucks and is unfun and throw your cards down and get huffy basically spoil everyone else's fun and whine about why did I bother to come? Because that is exactly how I see the whine of ohh noo there are undead I can't sneak atttack why am I here this sucks there are iron golems and I am blaster mage that sucks or WTF you brought in monsters with SR that's is just unfair you are nerfing my character. I would not play monopoly with someone who behaves this way and I don't want to play DnD withsome one who behaves this way. [/QUOTE]
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