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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4060069" data-attributes="member: 9789">To me, it seems like this issue has touched quite a nerve with some people.  I think a few folks in particular have had bad experiences with very poor GMs and this situation reminded them enough of those experiences that they voiced their opinion in favor of the whiner.  (By contrast, I've had an extremely similar experience with a whiny player, so I immediately sympathized with the OP.)  That said, I think the majority of posters have at least condemned the whiner's actions, if not his motives.Additionally, the thread has also recently focused on what people believe is the right amount of "spotlight" time, or how they believe characters should and/or should be able to act in-game.  Personally, this thread has taught me that there are several people out there that I would not care to game with, and thankfully I feel like I have learned a bit from this thread about how best to recognize these people more quickly so that I will be able to amicably resolve the situation before personal feelings come into play.  I think that's an important point:  try to learn how best to tell if the group/player/GM you're getting ready to play with is expecting a vastly different style of play than you prefer before things get too complicated.  It can save everyone some hurt feelings in the end.(Lastly, I wanted to mention that there are certainly many modules you can purchase that include one, multiple, or entire swaths of encounters that make some characters unable to use their primary damage function.  Ravenloft is a current, popular example that includes huge numbers of encounters with undead - making a rogue's life miserable, so long as all he wants to do is deal damage with sneak attack.  Then again, as many have said, there's no reason a player can't be perfectly happy playing a rogue in Barovia - he just needs to change his tactics and do other things besides damage.  Is this wrong?  I believe it is not.  Is it wrong for some players?  Sure.  How to fix it?  Don't play a rogue in Ravenloft!)</blockquote>

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