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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenes" data-source="post: 4061341" data-attributes="member: 604">Well, I think that some DMs are so sure they are right that whenever a player complains, it's seen as whining, since they missed all the other clues about something not being right.In any case, there's a lot of "badwrongfun" in this thread - meaning, if someone does not like the same playstyle they prefer, he's "unimaginative" "whining", "uncreative", "pouting" and so on.That's not the case. Sometimes, people simply know what they want, and don't want to play a game they have no fun in. I am sure there are a lot of people who still think they know what's best for everyone,. but I do hope that there are as many - or more - who do not forget that the only goal of D&D is to have fun - for everyone to have fun. Not for everyone to play the same style.Someone mentioned "normal dungeon enviroment". To those, it must be shocking to hear that I don't play D&D for dungeon crawling. So, dungeon crawling by itself would be a "no fun" mark for me. I can stomahc it if it happens once in a while, but if the DM is unwilling to add some other form roleplay to the dungeon crawl, then I'll quit.If a player wants to blast stuff with a wizard, then the DM should accomodate them. That doesn't mean he can't bring the odd iron golem, or dead magic zone, but when the player indicates that a whole adventure of such is not fun, the response should be "ok, noted, won't happen again", not "stop whining, and take it and like it!!!!!".Whining in itself is bad form, but by no means makes a complaint less legitimate. The right course of action is for the player to stop whining (if he really is whining, far too often, any complaint is seen as whining if it's kept up when it is not responded to), and the DM to either change the game to make it more fun for everyone, or kick the player out.Does that mean a DM has to run the game the players want, even if it's not fun? Of course not. But neither should a DM expect everyone to like his game. Just because a DM likes Dungeon Crawls, and ressource management makes him not a bad DM - and neither does preferring social challenges to monster killing. But if a DM expects his way to appeal to everyone, and considers any other playstyle wrong, then he's a bad DM.</blockquote>

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