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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 4064892" data-attributes="member: 39394"><p>Jdrakeh, I told you I read the entire thread. Don't tell me "confirmed by the several examples provided by Slaygrim" when it is in fact not. His game sounded pretty cool to me. Obviously one of us is the abnormal outlier whose opinions are not shared by the vast majority of gamers, and I don't think it's me.</p><p></p><p>I think using a high level caster who has already used many of his high level spells as an opponent is an interesting and unique idea. I'll have to try it sometime. I think throwing the occasional golem encounter at a caster is fair cop. (Especially at a wizard, who can always prepare different spells if his usual selection isn't working.)</p><p></p><p>Slaygrim probably made some mistakes. He admitted to doing too much railroading, and he didn't do enough to make the group aware of the tactical situation during one particular adventure. (Hidden ally on their side; good possibility the big bad wizard was already out of many of his most dangerous spells.)</p><p></p><p>That doesn't justify a constant stream of complaints in the middle of the game. If there's any possibility that any of the group is having fun, whining is going to kill it. A bad in-game situation is one thing, but a player who can't stop complaining about their bad rolls or bad tactical situation or dislike of something in the middle of the game is a killjoy of the first order. Whether there's justification behind the complaints or not, nobody wants to listen to it. Save the belly-aching for later.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again I read the whole thread, so this smearing of Slaygrim doesn't fly. I know what he said and didn't say.</p><p></p><p>If you're not going to accept his word that this guy was whining, why even reply to the thread?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's like you're posting from some parallel universe. "All about NPCs", "Absolutely no chance to be heroic"? Where do you even get that? It's like you just read Treasure Island and started complaining about how the pirates always win.</p><p></p><p>Because they had NPC back-up in one battle in one game session of a campaign? Bizarre. I think you're pretty far outside the mainstream of players here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 4064892, member: 39394"] Jdrakeh, I told you I read the entire thread. Don't tell me "confirmed by the several examples provided by Slaygrim" when it is in fact not. His game sounded pretty cool to me. Obviously one of us is the abnormal outlier whose opinions are not shared by the vast majority of gamers, and I don't think it's me. I think using a high level caster who has already used many of his high level spells as an opponent is an interesting and unique idea. I'll have to try it sometime. I think throwing the occasional golem encounter at a caster is fair cop. (Especially at a wizard, who can always prepare different spells if his usual selection isn't working.) Slaygrim probably made some mistakes. He admitted to doing too much railroading, and he didn't do enough to make the group aware of the tactical situation during one particular adventure. (Hidden ally on their side; good possibility the big bad wizard was already out of many of his most dangerous spells.) That doesn't justify a constant stream of complaints in the middle of the game. If there's any possibility that any of the group is having fun, whining is going to kill it. A bad in-game situation is one thing, but a player who can't stop complaining about their bad rolls or bad tactical situation or dislike of something in the middle of the game is a killjoy of the first order. Whether there's justification behind the complaints or not, nobody wants to listen to it. Save the belly-aching for later. Again I read the whole thread, so this smearing of Slaygrim doesn't fly. I know what he said and didn't say. If you're not going to accept his word that this guy was whining, why even reply to the thread? It's like you're posting from some parallel universe. "All about NPCs", "Absolutely no chance to be heroic"? Where do you even get that? It's like you just read Treasure Island and started complaining about how the pirates always win. Because they had NPC back-up in one battle in one game session of a campaign? Bizarre. I think you're pretty far outside the mainstream of players here. [/QUOTE]
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