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<blockquote data-quote="SnowleopardVK" data-source="post: 5627498" data-attributes="member: 6677945"><p>Ugh, this is definitely the type of whining I hate most.</p><p></p><p>I had a player who would assume by default that EVERYTHING I did was wrong unless it was something so blatantly obvious that he could tell what it was without having to make assumptions.</p><p></p><p>Except he didn't wait until his assumptions didn't pan out. He would accuse me of messing up the moment any situation arose where he didn't understand exactly what was happening. It slowed down the game considerably and would confuse newer players when he started describing in detail how something was supposed to work compared to how I was doing it (of course due to the whole "assumptions" things what he was describing tended to not be the same thing they were actually faced with).</p><p></p><p>He eventually crossed the line when I tried to talk to him about it outside the game and asked him to tone it down and not jump to conclusions. He declared that he wasn't going to and that he had the "right" to do what he was doing because he'd been playing various RPGs longer than I or any of the other players and was therefore "smarter than us" and always right. He tried to mix in a few comments of "I know you're the DM and it's your call" but he clearly didn't believe it.</p><p></p><p>He didn't really fit into the group anyways though, and he's not been welcome to join us any more after that crossing the line comment. I believe he came from a group in which his old DM made problems and combat ridiculously difficult but at the same time didn't hide anything from the players, and encouraged things like metagaming and cheating to find "creative" solutions to all situations. So I guess he wasn't used to not knowing everything.</p><p></p><p>I'm not his old DM though, but he seemed to have trouble realizing that fact. He never really did get a grasp on the concept that I'm not trying to kill the players at all times. Ah well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SnowleopardVK, post: 5627498, member: 6677945"] Ugh, this is definitely the type of whining I hate most. I had a player who would assume by default that EVERYTHING I did was wrong unless it was something so blatantly obvious that he could tell what it was without having to make assumptions. Except he didn't wait until his assumptions didn't pan out. He would accuse me of messing up the moment any situation arose where he didn't understand exactly what was happening. It slowed down the game considerably and would confuse newer players when he started describing in detail how something was supposed to work compared to how I was doing it (of course due to the whole "assumptions" things what he was describing tended to not be the same thing they were actually faced with). He eventually crossed the line when I tried to talk to him about it outside the game and asked him to tone it down and not jump to conclusions. He declared that he wasn't going to and that he had the "right" to do what he was doing because he'd been playing various RPGs longer than I or any of the other players and was therefore "smarter than us" and always right. He tried to mix in a few comments of "I know you're the DM and it's your call" but he clearly didn't believe it. He didn't really fit into the group anyways though, and he's not been welcome to join us any more after that crossing the line comment. I believe he came from a group in which his old DM made problems and combat ridiculously difficult but at the same time didn't hide anything from the players, and encouraged things like metagaming and cheating to find "creative" solutions to all situations. So I guess he wasn't used to not knowing everything. I'm not his old DM though, but he seemed to have trouble realizing that fact. He never really did get a grasp on the concept that I'm not trying to kill the players at all times. Ah well. [/QUOTE]
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