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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4212551" data-attributes="member: 710">It doesn't matter if the original poster feels like "whining" or "trolling" or just a little agitated or entirely reasonable. Try to address the concern, in a reasonable manner. If you can't do that, the troll automatically wins, and the non-troll or innocent bystander doesn't get anything useful out of it.There are a few people that I might be willing to accuse of trollish behaviour, or at least as constant whiners that can't be helped. But my suggestion is: If you suspect this to be the case, choose any of the following options, as appropriate to the situation at hand.1) Do not reply to the OP, only to constructive reactions.2) Do not reply at all.3) Put the poster on your ignore list. (My personal advice: Wait until you're sure it's the best way. If the poster just had a bad day, you might later miss out something more useful.)4) Report it to the mods. Take care with this option, and ensure that it's not you that's whining and becoming annoying to the mods. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It can be fun to react differently from time to time, but ensure that it doesn't make things worse. ------On the real topic at hand:There is only so much rule-zero you can do. if you feel you have to house-rule too much, complaints are warranted. But the poster should be aware that he might be to late to affect the design now, and it might be better to ask for advice how to handle the problem. Or just decide that maybe this edition is not made for him. That's disappointing, but this stuff happens. There are a lot of games out there that are not for everyone. What I generally can't agree is with people who worry about pure fluff. Aside from the fact that I like most of it (at least what is described in Races & Classes and World & Monsters) and thus don't share their opinion: Fluff is something you change depending on your campaign. I don't think I ever used the Great Wheel prominently, and I definitely had a campaign with different gods then the PHB. I still like that the core books come with some fluff attached, since it makes it easier for new-comers to get into the game. (In case of 4E, I feel even compelled to use it, despite not being a new-comer to D&D. Do I like the name "Golden Wyverns"? No. Do I like the idea of naming a feat after an organization/tradition/school of thought? Yep, absolutely!)</blockquote>

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