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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 596663" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>You have, obviously, never used a whip to try and strike a target.</p><p></p><p>You don't HIT targets with the whip. You "throw" the tip of the whip at the target.</p><p></p><p>Ergo, it's a ranged attack. IMO it should be a ranged TOUCH attack even, but that's a different issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is another good reason the Whip is not a melee weapon. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And in which case (the whip dagger) you're even MORE "throwing the tip" at the target ... just because the thrown part of the whip is -tethered- to you makes no difference.</p><p></p><p>If you tie a string to your arrows, so that you can yank the arrow back to you after each attack, does that make the bow-and-arrow a melee weapon? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you apply Strength modifiers to the whip to-hit and damage, instead of dexterity? If so, I'd happily bet you $20 USD (and, I'm neither wealthy nor inclined to gamble) that you've never made serious attempts to hit any targets with a whip before. Not that that's a horrible lack, MOST people probably haven't ... </p><p></p><p>... but a whip is nothing even REMOTELY like any -- in fact ALL -- melee weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it reflects that one of the game designers had a clue, and had possibly actually *used* a whip sometime in the past.</p><p></p><p>Go get one. Heck, use an old electrical cord as a stand-in. <strong>Flick</strong> the end of it at targets, don't just flail about. See how much more like throwing a tethered dart or stone the process is.</p><p></p><p>I guarantee, if you do, and are honest about trying to "flick" rather than flail in a big arcing circle, you will change your mind as to wetehr or not classifying the whip as a ranged weapon was "sloppy", or otherwise inappropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 596663, member: 6875"] You have, obviously, never used a whip to try and strike a target. You don't HIT targets with the whip. You "throw" the tip of the whip at the target. Ergo, it's a ranged attack. IMO it should be a ranged TOUCH attack even, but that's a different issue. Which is another good reason the Whip is not a melee weapon. And in which case (the whip dagger) you're even MORE "throwing the tip" at the target ... just because the thrown part of the whip is -tethered- to you makes no difference. If you tie a string to your arrows, so that you can yank the arrow back to you after each attack, does that make the bow-and-arrow a melee weapon? :) So, you apply Strength modifiers to the whip to-hit and damage, instead of dexterity? If so, I'd happily bet you $20 USD (and, I'm neither wealthy nor inclined to gamble) that you've never made serious attempts to hit any targets with a whip before. Not that that's a horrible lack, MOST people probably haven't ... ... but a whip is nothing even REMOTELY like any -- in fact ALL -- melee weapons. No, it reflects that one of the game designers had a clue, and had possibly actually *used* a whip sometime in the past. Go get one. Heck, use an old electrical cord as a stand-in. [b]Flick[/b] the end of it at targets, don't just flail about. See how much more like throwing a tethered dart or stone the process is. I guarantee, if you do, and are honest about trying to "flick" rather than flail in a big arcing circle, you will change your mind as to wetehr or not classifying the whip as a ranged weapon was "sloppy", or otherwise inappropriate. [/QUOTE]
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