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Whips in General and the Lasher PrCl?
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<blockquote data-quote="melkoriii" data-source="post: 342115" data-attributes="member: 2162"><p>In the errata for S&F for the Lasher’s “Sneak attack” it says: After “(whether he actually has a Dexterity bonus or not),” insert: or when the Lasher flanks the target. </p><p></p><p>Now the ability “Whip lash” only says the Lasher can make AoO with his whip/dagger in 5’ as if it was a melee weapon. (Note it does not state you threaten any space)</p><p>Close Combat just negates the AoO you take for using a ranged weapon in a threatened space.</p><p></p><p>But the errata says you can flank with a Whip/dagger but dose not say any range 5’ or 15’.</p><p></p><p><Opinion></p><p>To me a Whip is a melee weapon that “acts” like a ranged weapon, but is still a melee weapon. That is the only way you could make Disarm/Trip attacks with it and still provoke AoO’s (Disarm) and counter trips (Trip) as you can’t with ranged weapons. </p><p></p><p>To me a whip would defiantly threaten a 15’ range if that’s how long he whip is. I have used bull whips before and when Im circling for a crack NO ONE would want to get near me and the range is about 15’ (12’ whip plus 2’ for my arm) I can crack the whip at any point with a flip of the wrist.</p><p></p><p>This is to me how they intended the Whip and Lasher to work. You can only make AoO in 5’ for balancing reasons but have a range of 15’ for flanking/sneak attacks.</p><p></Opinion></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="melkoriii, post: 342115, member: 2162"] In the errata for S&F for the Lasher’s “Sneak attack” it says: After “(whether he actually has a Dexterity bonus or not),” insert: or when the Lasher flanks the target. Now the ability “Whip lash” only says the Lasher can make AoO with his whip/dagger in 5’ as if it was a melee weapon. (Note it does not state you threaten any space) Close Combat just negates the AoO you take for using a ranged weapon in a threatened space. But the errata says you can flank with a Whip/dagger but dose not say any range 5’ or 15’. <Opinion> To me a Whip is a melee weapon that “acts” like a ranged weapon, but is still a melee weapon. That is the only way you could make Disarm/Trip attacks with it and still provoke AoO’s (Disarm) and counter trips (Trip) as you can’t with ranged weapons. To me a whip would defiantly threaten a 15’ range if that’s how long he whip is. I have used bull whips before and when Im circling for a crack NO ONE would want to get near me and the range is about 15’ (12’ whip plus 2’ for my arm) I can crack the whip at any point with a flip of the wrist. This is to me how they intended the Whip and Lasher to work. You can only make AoO in 5’ for balancing reasons but have a range of 15’ for flanking/sneak attacks. </Opinion> [/QUOTE]
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