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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 343114" data-attributes="member: 6875">Players Handbook, page 130, right-hand column (so very difficult to find; I had to gasp! use the index!):Pay especial attention to the bits I put in italics above.  To flank a creature, you have to be making a melee attack (Whips, being ranged weapons, do not qualify for this), and, your ally has to be opposite the defender form you -- AND has to threaten the defender (a basic fighter with a bow in hand threatens no squares, and so, can GIVE no flanking bonus to any allies).Actually, I hadn't even realised flanking status only counted durign an actual melee attack.  Therefor, my prior claims as to having a dagger in their off-hand are indeed irrelevant; the lasher cannot flank a foe while using a whip or whip-dagger, ever.  They can qualify their allies for flnking, due to the threat zone their class provides them while weilding whips, etc.Flanking or no, Lashers are great.  Rogue-Lashers are truly evil, especially with opportunist, if you get to Rogue(10).  Consider Rogue(6)-Fighter(4)-Lasher(10) as a goal.  You can specialise (gaining +2 damage), pile on the ranged weapon feats (Rapid Shot, Point Blank Shot, the ever-critical Precise Shot), and have decent sneak attack damage.At epic levels, that same character can add in the Opportunist ability.  Truly evil.  8)Now, on top of that -- nothing says you cannot dual-weild whips or whip-daggers.  Ambidexterity, Two-weapon, Improved two-weapon, and a pair of whip daggers.  >8)  Whip daggers are light weapons, even for HALFLINGS (I've seen a Rogue(10)-Fighter(4)-Lasher(2) in action ... it was ugly.  Ugly, and PAINFUL, and glorious ... heh ...</blockquote>

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