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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 151285" data-attributes="member: 1118">Exactly how I see it too.&nbsp; I don't have any concerns about the fighter being unbalanced or too powerful if I allow this.&nbsp; That's not what it's about.&nbsp; What it's about is how I visualize these feats working, and with the fact that it's generally to your advantage to have numerical superiority.&nbsp; Allowing so many extra attacks against a powerful creature just because there are mooks around just seems....wrong....to me.&nbsp; Yes, the fighter is trained to fight in these situations, and even if I only allow one cleave per oppoent, he does outperform someone who isn't trained for that situation...nothing wrong there.As Ywain and I have said the reality situation is one where you are probably only going to get one or two cleave attacks from the WWA anyway.&nbsp; I'm cool with that.&nbsp; It's the situation were somehow or another a pile of mooks are mixed into the situation I'm not.&nbsp; The fighter can quickly chop down the mooks with his feats and level the playing field, that's fine.&nbsp; I wouldn't want him to be able to use these mooks to get tons of extra FREE damage on the big bad boss and turn a tough, exciting battle into a breeze just because there were mooks around.IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 151285, member: 1118"] Exactly how I see it too. I don't have any concerns about the fighter being unbalanced or too powerful if I allow this. That's not what it's about. What it's about is how I visualize these feats working, and with the fact that it's generally to your advantage to have numerical superiority. Allowing so many extra attacks against a powerful creature just because there are mooks around just seems....wrong....to me. Yes, the fighter is trained to fight in these situations, and even if I only allow one cleave per oppoent, he does outperform someone who isn't trained for that situation...nothing wrong there. As Ywain and I have said the reality situation is one where you are probably only going to get one or two cleave attacks from the WWA anyway. I'm cool with that. It's the situation were somehow or another a pile of mooks are mixed into the situation I'm not. The fighter can quickly chop down the mooks with his feats and level the playing field, that's fine. I wouldn't want him to be able to use these mooks to get tons of extra FREE damage on the big bad boss and turn a tough, exciting battle into a breeze just because there were mooks around. IceBear [/QUOTE]

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