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Message: <blockquote data-quote="radmod" data-source="post: 5321829" data-attributes="member: 93008">Hey, don't blame me, blame WOTC. From the PH (via SRD):"If you get more than one attack per <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Round" target="_blank">round</a> because your <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Base_Attack_Bonus" target="_blank">base attack bonus</a> is high enough, because you fight with two weapons or a <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Double_Weapon" target="_blank">double weapon</a> or for some special reason you must use a full-round action to get your additional attacks"Yes, Pounce goes beyond that, but it doesn't change the fact that multiple attacks require a full-round action.In an earlier thread, I was discussing why verbosity is best. This is a prime example. Too often, people focus on the last words of a person rather than the whole conversation.If I had added "[#1] from the previous post" there would be no confusion (I'm going to correct that). If I had read the thread as it is I would've been confused just like veg was. However, since it didn't make sense I would have hoped the reader would have realized I was referring to an earlier #1. If I had been more verbose, it would've been clear. Just to clarify, I meant #1 from the previous post:"1) As already pointed out, a charge gives you one attack. Pounce gives you multiple attacks therefore it cannot be used in conjunction with WA."Hence, the rules-lawyering comment.First off, is there another glossary I'm not aware of? I see <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_fullroundaction&alpha=F" target="_blank">Full-Round Action</a> defined but not Full-Round Attack. I just want to be sure I'm not missing a resource.This is where we are going to disagree (I guarantee it!).As we all know, WOTC attempted, but did not always succeed in being precise in terminology, hence evil (the alignment) vs. Evil (the descriptor).I do not consider "full attack" to be equivalent to "full attack action". A full attack action is not a full attack but an action that allows one to make a full attack. By the above-mentioned definition it is a full-round action. So WA requires a full-round action.Now, Pounce, OTH, is a special attack that allows a special full-round action (Charge) followed by a full attack. Thus, it is a special full-round action that allows a full attack.So pouncing allows a full attack, but it does not allow a full attack action since it is already a full-round action.Now let's look at intent. Pounce is usually a dog/cat monster ability. I have no doubt in my mind that the idea was that said monster runs over and (like a lion) essentially jumps on a person and does multiple attacks. Yet the way it is written allows you to attack more than one creature. I, personally, only allow my monsters to attack either one or two adjacent creatures because that is what I believe the intent was.</blockquote>

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