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<blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 782808" data-attributes="member: 10131">My ruling on Whirlwind/Cleave combination (I'm sure someone else has thought of this)First of all - you DO get separate attacks for each target in the Whirlwind, by my ruling.&nbsp; It's the same thing as throwing three shuriken: One attack action, but multiple attack rolls.Also, I rule that Whirlwind makes you make separate attacks, because there's nothing in the rules that says that instead of attacking some creatures, you couldn't instead attempt to trip one of them or disarm one of them.&nbsp; But this is another animal all together... back to the argument at hand.Because Whirlwind is one action, any action you take while whirlwinding ends your whirlwind - including use of cleave or great cleave.Basically what this means is that if you kill a foe, and decide to cleave, you don't get anymore whirlwind attacks.&nbsp; SO, you would most likely START your whirlwind on the toughest creature, and move to the weakest.&nbsp; That way, if you killed the weak creature with your last whirlwind attack, you could cleave to one of the other tougher foes you hit with whirlwind previously.Also what this means is that if you decide to trip or disarm at any point during the whirlwind you CAN do this... but making the trip or disarm check ends the whirlwind.Thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Murrdox, post: 782808, member: 10131"] My ruling on Whirlwind/Cleave combination (I'm sure someone else has thought of this) First of all - you DO get separate attacks for each target in the Whirlwind, by my ruling. It's the same thing as throwing three shuriken: One attack action, but multiple attack rolls. Also, I rule that Whirlwind makes you make separate attacks, because there's nothing in the rules that says that instead of attacking some creatures, you couldn't instead attempt to trip one of them or disarm one of them. But this is another animal all together... back to the argument at hand. Because Whirlwind is one action, any action you take while whirlwinding ends your whirlwind - including use of cleave or great cleave. Basically what this means is that if you kill a foe, and decide to cleave, you don't get anymore whirlwind attacks. SO, you would most likely START your whirlwind on the toughest creature, and move to the weakest. That way, if you killed the weak creature with your last whirlwind attack, you could cleave to one of the other tougher foes you hit with whirlwind previously. Also what this means is that if you decide to trip or disarm at any point during the whirlwind you CAN do this... but making the trip or disarm check ends the whirlwind. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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