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<blockquote data-quote="Leif" data-source="post: 4385026" data-attributes="member: 48762">Observed Weirdness to PonderScotley and I have been discussing the pluses/minuses of 3.5 v. 4.0 v. Pazo's Pathfinder lately, and I think we've both reached the conclusion that there's just no good substitute for 3.5.&nbsp; But, having said that, there are, indeed, a few quirks about 3.5 that are just plain ........................ weird.For example: Arcane casters get more of the cool spells, and Divine casters get more of the restorative spells.&nbsp; But what about Bards?&nbsp; They are, nominally at least, arcane casters, and yet they have access to cure spells.&nbsp; This raises the question, in my mind at least, why, since Bards have obviously perfected an arcane Cure Light Wounds (for example), couldn't wizards do likewise?&nbsp; Gee, if only I knew of a group of wizards to do some research into this problem.......And another thing:&nbsp; If you find an arcane scroll or arcane wand of Cure Light, your Wizard supposedly can't use it (unless he uses the &quot;Use Magic Item&quot; skill) because the spell doesn't appear on his class spell list.&nbsp; How cruddy!&nbsp; But most bards don't have spare feats to waste on item creation stuff.&nbsp; Also very weird.&nbsp; (But NOT weird enough to make me like 4ed!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leif, post: 4385026, member: 48762"] [b]Observed Weirdness to Ponder[/b] Scotley and I have been discussing the pluses/minuses of 3.5 v. 4.0 v. Pazo's Pathfinder lately, and I think we've both reached the conclusion that there's just no good substitute for 3.5. But, having said that, there are, indeed, a few quirks about 3.5 that are just plain ........................ weird. For example: Arcane casters get more of the cool spells, and Divine casters get more of the restorative spells. But what about Bards? They are, nominally at least, arcane casters, and yet they have access to cure spells. This raises the question, in my mind at least, why, since Bards have obviously perfected an arcane [i]Cure Light Wounds[/i] (for example), couldn't wizards do likewise? Gee, if only I knew of a group of wizards to do some research into this problem....... And another thing: If you find an arcane scroll or arcane wand of [i]Cure Light[/i], your Wizard supposedly can't use it (unless he uses the "Use Magic Item" skill) because the spell doesn't appear on his class spell list. How cruddy! But most bards don't have spare feats to waste on item creation stuff. Also very weird. (But NOT weird enough to make me like 4ed!) [/QUOTE]

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