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<blockquote data-quote="cildarith" data-source="post: 1053139" data-attributes="member: 281">Here is another curiosity:The original Fiend Factory version had 1d8 HD and the Fiend Folio 1d8+1 HD.&nbsp; The Berbalang write up in Second Edition assigns the creature 4d8+1 hit dice.&nbsp; The Creature Catalog version were are discussing here does the same.&nbsp; This is an error in my estimation.&nbsp; The reason for this opinion lies in the fact that no other factors regarding the creature changed in 2E including the XP awarded for defeating it...still 65...a pretty poor reward for defeating a 4HD creature with a high intelligence, special abilities and 3 attacks per round.&nbsp; Even an ogre (also 4d8+1 HD) earned 175 XP.&nbsp; By way of comparison, other creatures earning 65 XP in 2E included: war dog, gnoll leader/guard, hobgoblin sub-chief, mule, hyena, lizard man, orc chief/bodyguard, common owl, 2HD piercer, skeleton, wolf, zombie, etc. Whether or not you want to perpetuate a possible error or recalc a bunch of skills and feats is your can of worms, not mine.&nbsp; I just open them up and pass 'em around. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="cildarith, post: 1053139, member: 281"] Here is another curiosity: The original Fiend Factory version had 1d8 HD and the Fiend Folio 1d8+1 HD. The Berbalang write up in Second Edition assigns the creature 4d8+1 hit dice. The Creature Catalog version were are discussing here does the same. This is an error in my estimation. The reason for this opinion lies in the fact that no other factors regarding the creature changed in 2E including the XP awarded for defeating it...still 65...a pretty poor reward for defeating a 4HD creature with a high intelligence, special abilities and 3 attacks per round. Even an ogre (also 4d8+1 HD) earned 175 XP. By way of comparison, other creatures earning 65 XP in 2E included: war dog, gnoll leader/guard, hobgoblin sub-chief, mule, hyena, lizard man, orc chief/bodyguard, common owl, 2HD piercer, skeleton, wolf, zombie, etc. Whether or not you want to perpetuate a possible error or recalc a bunch of skills and feats is your can of worms, not mine. I just open them up and pass 'em around. ;) [/QUOTE]

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