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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 3388883" data-attributes="member: 16989">Not real happy now.Not real mad either.More really annoyed.Last night I picked up the World of Warcraft Monster Guide (I have a thing for monster books).I already have the older Manual of Monsters book (in fact I had it right beside me to see what had changed).A few things swung my Decision:1.  WotC Magic Item Compendium wasn't out yet.2. The Monster Guide didn't have as much overlap as I'd thought, I could still use both books.3.  My personal issues with buying almost every monster book there is.4.  Full Color with good artwork.  Monster books are the one RPG element where Art can make/break for me.5.  WEB EXTRAS in Big BOLD Letters.  Quote  "This book has a lot of monsters so many, in fact, that they didn't all fit in the book.  Log on to to <a href="http://www.warcraftrpg.com" target="_blank">www.warcraftrpg.com</a> for dozens more pages of monsters -- animals & vermin"  and "Cloud serpents are magical wind serpents (see the web extras)"The book repeatedly mentions all the Web Extras that are available.  So I pick this book up.Today, after I get off work I log on to start getting my Freebies on.Dragon of Faeruns.  Great.Cityscape.  Really cool.WoW Monster guide.....  WTF.  Is it out yet?  I can't find it anywhere on the S&S, WW, or WoW websites.  I finally notice a little corner blurb "Monster Guide Extra is out but...."  It takes me to their forums.Turns out the Web EXTRAS are just that.  EXTRA.  As in EXTRA cost to Download.  They want 4 bucks for 33 pages (most of which is SRD Animals & Vermin).  No artwork, but "Full COLOR"  Ohhhh.  Colored fonts.  You have to go to page 4 or so to even get the index, the product page seems to have no mention of the contents of the Web Extras.I'll wrap this up.  I have well over 100 RPG books.  This is the first to define "Web Extra"  as "pay more for this that got left on the cutting room floor"  To be honest I don't think the average person who read that statement the way they put it would have seen it as something they were going to have to pay for.It was misleading & seems a little money grubbing (there is a reason I PLAY WW, but never bought a single WoD Book).I feel gipped.  But I learned something.Any mention I ever see in a WW product about Addtional Web Material will now go in the Minus column of my decision making. White Wolf has been knocked down ANOTHER peg on my list of Favorite Companies (Actually with the loss of Necromancer, they almost fallen down to the Rarely ever buy list).To use the Same Terminology that WotC, Green Ronin, THEMSELVES, Mongoose, Goodman Games, Atlas Games, Chaosium, Privateer Press, AEG, Fantasy Flight Games, Fast Forward Entertainment for Grief's Sake! use to indicate FREE STUFF HERE!  is just plain unethical.(ALL the compaines I mentioned have at least 1 or more books on my shelf with "Extra Web" mentions that lead to free downloads).Would I have bought the Monster Guide anyway?Yes, the full color sealed the deal.  If it was Black & White, it would have been the Web Extras that's sold me.I can say I am now less likely to buy anything with the Sword & Sorcery Logo than I was 24 hours ago.I tend to shy away from companies that make sneaky misleading comments.  Thus why I stopped buying from FFE, and have only just begun to buy Mongoose again.I mean I don't really care.  It bugs me.  I feel duped & tricked.  (PS, customers who feel duped don't tend to become repeat customers).This is just a warning:Warcraft, Monster Guide's references to Web Extras, despite being coached in language we've come to expect means bonus, free supplementary information...It isn't.  Thier WEB EXTRAS will cost you 4 bucks extra.  Take that into effect when purchasing.I wish I had (again I'd have still bought, it, but it would have been a much closer sale).</blockquote>

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