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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 3393572" data-attributes="member: 9225"><p>If one were quite so picky about wasted time, I submit that there are a hell of a lot of people to hold accountable before you go to some game company in Georgia. That old guy in the hat (it's always an old guy in a hat, isn't it?) who drove below the limit in front of you the other day, for instance. </p><p></p><p>About a week back, this woman in a fur coat dressed down the guy working checkout in the fast lane, even though she herself had more than the permitted number of items. And I'll be damned if I can stand XP boot times on a non-optimized machine. And these are only the items that whisk me ever closer to my mortal end where I *didn't* get to choose -- unlike, say, whether to buy some RPG book.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep conjugating the word "deceive" as if there's a chortling man wringing his hands about the possibility of absconding with 15 minutes and 35 cents. There isn't. There's just a production staff trying to meet deadlines within the specifications set by a print service. You assume malice that not only doesn't exist, but is actually pretty ridiculous if you give it any thought.</p><p></p><p>At some point, you have to accept that organizations occasionally make mistakes and that this is the doom of man until our businesses are run by AI god-rulers, assuming they don't exterminate us in a Bill Joy-esque posthuman apocalypse. (Google: "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" for details.)</p><p></p><p>Plus, of course, the fact is that the argument about the web bits as a promotion is a total red herring. It isn't advertised as a feature of the book. Go and check the catalog entry for yourself. One would have to have the book in hand, which makes it rather unlikely that a bit of web content of unknown length would be the prime motive in a purchasing decision.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, given that the original poster felt he got value for his money anyway and most of the other complainers already don't buy their books, make a realistic guess. If a hundred people who don't buy their books vow to not buy their books <em>even more</em>, what's the net change in revenue exactly?</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I bet there are a fair chunk of people whose chief reaction was "What? There's a WoW RPG? Gadzooks Herman! Now I need never be without my dark elf in the event of a wattage disruption caused by Tesla's infernal alternating current! At last, someone has freed Azeroth from the jiggery-pokery of errant Babbage Thinking Engines!" Something like that. If only the complaints also had some quaint quasi-Victorian scientific romance element we could all similarly chortle and retreat to high tea.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This thread isn't about an *advertised* web extra in the first place. The WoW monster book's catalog entry doesn't say anything about it. You can only find out it exists by either cracking open the physical product or seeing the supplement for sale at DTRPG, price tag proudly displayed. It has to be the most slack-tastic, inefficient scheme to Nefariously Part the Gamer from His Rough Third of a Dollar I've ever read. Then again, one doesn't read about arguable larceny on this scale often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 3393572, member: 9225"] If one were quite so picky about wasted time, I submit that there are a hell of a lot of people to hold accountable before you go to some game company in Georgia. That old guy in the hat (it's always an old guy in a hat, isn't it?) who drove below the limit in front of you the other day, for instance. About a week back, this woman in a fur coat dressed down the guy working checkout in the fast lane, even though she herself had more than the permitted number of items. And I'll be damned if I can stand XP boot times on a non-optimized machine. And these are only the items that whisk me ever closer to my mortal end where I *didn't* get to choose -- unlike, say, whether to buy some RPG book. You keep conjugating the word "deceive" as if there's a chortling man wringing his hands about the possibility of absconding with 15 minutes and 35 cents. There isn't. There's just a production staff trying to meet deadlines within the specifications set by a print service. You assume malice that not only doesn't exist, but is actually pretty ridiculous if you give it any thought. At some point, you have to accept that organizations occasionally make mistakes and that this is the doom of man until our businesses are run by AI god-rulers, assuming they don't exterminate us in a Bill Joy-esque posthuman apocalypse. (Google: "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" for details.) Plus, of course, the fact is that the argument about the web bits as a promotion is a total red herring. It isn't advertised as a feature of the book. Go and check the catalog entry for yourself. One would have to have the book in hand, which makes it rather unlikely that a bit of web content of unknown length would be the prime motive in a purchasing decision. Well, given that the original poster felt he got value for his money anyway and most of the other complainers already don't buy their books, make a realistic guess. If a hundred people who don't buy their books vow to not buy their books [I]even more[/I], what's the net change in revenue exactly? On the other hand, I bet there are a fair chunk of people whose chief reaction was "What? There's a WoW RPG? Gadzooks Herman! Now I need never be without my dark elf in the event of a wattage disruption caused by Tesla's infernal alternating current! At last, someone has freed Azeroth from the jiggery-pokery of errant Babbage Thinking Engines!" Something like that. If only the complaints also had some quaint quasi-Victorian scientific romance element we could all similarly chortle and retreat to high tea. This thread isn't about an *advertised* web extra in the first place. The WoW monster book's catalog entry doesn't say anything about it. You can only find out it exists by either cracking open the physical product or seeing the supplement for sale at DTRPG, price tag proudly displayed. It has to be the most slack-tastic, inefficient scheme to Nefariously Part the Gamer from His Rough Third of a Dollar I've ever read. Then again, one doesn't read about arguable larceny on this scale often. [/QUOTE]
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