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<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3394091" data-attributes="member: 9053"><p>I think there are really two things going on here: first, there seems to be a growing attitude that "web extras" should no longer be free: they should be separate purchases.</p><p></p><p>I can't disagree more with this practice. As RPG products become more and more expensive, one of the things that can motivate me to purchase a particular product is strong online support for it, typically in the form of a web enhancement. Am I "entitled" to this, of course not, but it can affect whether or not I purchase product that I was on the fence about.</p><p></p><p>One of the things that attracted my to early Necromancer Games products was their amazing web extras: The Crucible of Freya had a web enhancement that was essentially a mini campaign setting, and I ran it for months. That PDF encouraged me to buy more of their early products. Ditto with Fiery Dragon and NeMoren's Vault.</p><p></p><p>So if you take the content that I might have purchased the initial product for and charge for it on top of the original product, I'm unlikely to buy either item, assuming it wasn't a product that I was initially very interested in.</p><p></p><p>The second thing about this issue is that it's basically a screw-up by White Wolf. Was there some malice involved here? I seriously doubt it. I think the decision to charge for web extras is a bad one, but it's not something illegal or unethical. I'm sure the decision to charge for the extra was simply made after the book went to print. What should the company do in this case? I'd say they should eat it, and release the content for free. Treat this as a cheap lesson on changing one of their business practices in the middle of creating a product. Future products should have a notation about "bonus material available for sale at whitewolf.com").</p><p></p><p>The reason I say this is not because I think the gaming community "deserves" it, but rather because this is the kind of screw up that generates a lot of bad press (at best) or generates a lawsuit (at worst). The amount of money we're talking about here is so modest, and the potential <strong>good will</strong> that could be generated is high.</p><p></p><p>Just my $.02.</p><p></p><p>--Steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 3394091, member: 9053"] I think there are really two things going on here: first, there seems to be a growing attitude that "web extras" should no longer be free: they should be separate purchases. I can't disagree more with this practice. As RPG products become more and more expensive, one of the things that can motivate me to purchase a particular product is strong online support for it, typically in the form of a web enhancement. Am I "entitled" to this, of course not, but it can affect whether or not I purchase product that I was on the fence about. One of the things that attracted my to early Necromancer Games products was their amazing web extras: The Crucible of Freya had a web enhancement that was essentially a mini campaign setting, and I ran it for months. That PDF encouraged me to buy more of their early products. Ditto with Fiery Dragon and NeMoren's Vault. So if you take the content that I might have purchased the initial product for and charge for it on top of the original product, I'm unlikely to buy either item, assuming it wasn't a product that I was initially very interested in. The second thing about this issue is that it's basically a screw-up by White Wolf. Was there some malice involved here? I seriously doubt it. I think the decision to charge for web extras is a bad one, but it's not something illegal or unethical. I'm sure the decision to charge for the extra was simply made after the book went to print. What should the company do in this case? I'd say they should eat it, and release the content for free. Treat this as a cheap lesson on changing one of their business practices in the middle of creating a product. Future products should have a notation about "bonus material available for sale at whitewolf.com"). The reason I say this is not because I think the gaming community "deserves" it, but rather because this is the kind of screw up that generates a lot of bad press (at best) or generates a lawsuit (at worst). The amount of money we're talking about here is so modest, and the potential [b]good will[/b] that could be generated is high. Just my $.02. --Steve [/QUOTE]
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