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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swrushing" data-source="post: 1726825" data-attributes="member: 14140">Long long ago, i bought the first VtM and was wowed. it had a significant impact on my Gming. i ran vampire for several years. Eventually i did drop it and i must say a good part of it was the inability of those guys to even worry about making their mechanics work reliably much less worrying about making their mechanics match the scenes they used.  I got out during second revision of vampire, before dark ages cam out, right after the last spoke game for WoD (changeling or wraith?)However, i still considered what they had done to be basically wonderful. right time and right place for that turn.And since them, i too have, while giving them props for what the cared about being done well, mocked them.Everything i have heard about 2.0 has led me to want more and more to try it. It sounds like they have made good moves towards having a working system.And so if i am lucky mine will be sitting on my doorstep when i get home from work today.Just hearing about the per pain flaw payback is great news.</blockquote>