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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 2391343" data-attributes="member: 32740"><p>They'd be laughed at. Just as I'm laughing at WW right now. Never did have an interest in their games and now I have even less.</p><p> </p><p>Firstly, I think it's highly objectionable and downright stupid to try to charge people for the privelege of playing in an RPG that you run. It is SO not the point that it's staggering. As a correlation I find it nearly as stupid to run D&D COMPETITIVELY at a convention as a general rule. How can you compete (and why would you want to try) at a game that BY DESIGN has no way to win much less keep score?</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, this kind of policy is utterly unenforceable anywhere but at a convention where the company has representatives and lawyers at the ready to crack down on it. Even if an angry player rats on his paid DM to try to get him in dutch with <em>The Gaming Police</em> (and this means there really WOULD be gaming police!) it's not as if they're going to be able to haul your butt into court to try to get you to comply because they can't possibly prove you're violating their licenses unless you're stupid enough to both admit it and refuse to stop. It could only happen if you're running a game in public where they can see you, confront you, and where you nonetheless insist on being paid WAGES for running a specific game system.</p><p> </p><p>The implications are, however, nothing short of staggering. I thought it was whacky enough that people wanted to be PAID DM's in the first place, but now that people have managed to BECOME paid DM's, a game company thinks they need to... what? Forcibly unionize DM's? Sue anyone who uses their RPG AS an RPG but not in a manner they approve of? <BOGGLE></p><p> </p><p>The only thing they'll really accomplish is sending the paid game operators underground. Think I'm a paid DM at home using your game system? Prove it. Prove that my use of your RPG carries with it a license that I implicitly subscribe to that legally disallows me to get paid for running a game of it. Just TRY to force me to join your little club before you'll "allow" me to charge for my services and see how far you can get. No really. I'd like to see this end up in court to watch the clowns and listen to the calliope music.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 2391343, member: 32740"] They'd be laughed at. Just as I'm laughing at WW right now. Never did have an interest in their games and now I have even less. Firstly, I think it's highly objectionable and downright stupid to try to charge people for the privelege of playing in an RPG that you run. It is SO not the point that it's staggering. As a correlation I find it nearly as stupid to run D&D COMPETITIVELY at a convention as a general rule. How can you compete (and why would you want to try) at a game that BY DESIGN has no way to win much less keep score? Secondly, this kind of policy is utterly unenforceable anywhere but at a convention where the company has representatives and lawyers at the ready to crack down on it. Even if an angry player rats on his paid DM to try to get him in dutch with [i]The Gaming Police[/i] (and this means there really WOULD be gaming police!) it's not as if they're going to be able to haul your butt into court to try to get you to comply because they can't possibly prove you're violating their licenses unless you're stupid enough to both admit it and refuse to stop. It could only happen if you're running a game in public where they can see you, confront you, and where you nonetheless insist on being paid WAGES for running a specific game system. The implications are, however, nothing short of staggering. I thought it was whacky enough that people wanted to be PAID DM's in the first place, but now that people have managed to BECOME paid DM's, a game company thinks they need to... what? Forcibly unionize DM's? Sue anyone who uses their RPG AS an RPG but not in a manner they approve of? <BOGGLE> The only thing they'll really accomplish is sending the paid game operators underground. Think I'm a paid DM at home using your game system? Prove it. Prove that my use of your RPG carries with it a license that I implicitly subscribe to that legally disallows me to get paid for running a game of it. Just TRY to force me to join your little club before you'll "allow" me to charge for my services and see how far you can get. No really. I'd like to see this end up in court to watch the clowns and listen to the calliope music. [/QUOTE]
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