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<blockquote data-quote="Arnwyn" data-source="post: 1197800" data-attributes="member: 7701">Oh, I realize that - and to be honest, I didn't mean to rag on the 3E Birthright rules. Believe me, 3E Birthright would definitely be (and still is) a consideration, depending on the quality of the other kingdom-management rules out there. I've certainly skimmed them, and they're actually not bad for what they propose to do - and in the process of trying to determine what kingdom management rules to use, I would consider using them and even adapting them for use in my long-running Forgotten Realms campaign.It's just not *quite* what I'm looking for (I'm hoping for something that starts with the PCs building a fort on a small tract of land, then seeing what springs up - blacksmith, resources, village, infrastructure, and so on), and - as you mention - they don't have the resources of a company behind them. (Really, I was just noting that there *is* a reason why Fields of Blood is highly anticipated, to try to quell some of the confusion that johnsemlak seems to be under; and to quickly dismiss the idea that there are &quot;numerous and highly rated&quot; systems out there, which of course there are not.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arnwyn, post: 1197800, member: 7701"] Oh, I realize that - and to be honest, I didn't mean to rag on the 3E Birthright rules. Believe me, 3E Birthright would definitely be (and still is) a consideration, depending on the quality of the other kingdom-management rules out there. I've certainly skimmed them, and they're actually not bad for what they propose to do - and in the process of trying to determine what kingdom management rules to use, I would consider using them and even adapting them for use in my long-running Forgotten Realms campaign. It's just not *quite* what I'm looking for (I'm hoping for something that starts with the PCs building a fort on a small tract of land, then seeing what springs up - blacksmith, resources, village, infrastructure, and so on), and - as you mention - they don't have the resources of a company behind them. (Really, I was just noting that there *is* a reason why [i]Fields of Blood[/i] is highly anticipated, to try to quell some of the confusion that johnsemlak seems to be under; and to quickly dismiss the idea that there are "numerous and highly rated" systems out there, which of course there are not.) [/QUOTE]

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