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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9278877" data-attributes="member: 29398">This last one is where we differ.  To me, even if the player has left the game the character still defaults to belonging to the player, unless the player has given permission for it to be used as an NPC (or, in rare cases, has given it over to another player to keep playing).If a character is abandoned and the player says nothing to the DM then the character still belongs to the player IMO.  And I'm only talking about the character in its orginal campaign; if the player wants to port a character from my game over to a different DM's game or campaign all they have to do is let me know and I'll find a way for it to just happen to plane-shift over there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It can also matter in games like mine where players and (more frequently) characters come and go over the years.  In the 16 years my current campaign has been going there's been a total of 13 players, of which I'm still in touch with 11.  The 12th player's surviving characters are in theory still out there somewhere but there's been no reason to do anything with them (and just about everyone who ever knew them is either retired or dead anyway); and the 13th player's only character died ages ago.And all of those players (well, except unlucky #13) each have numerous characters in the setting in various states: some are active, some are on hold, and many are retired including all of those whose players are neither in the game nor expected to reappear any time soon.Indeed.  This whole discussion came from someone saying that a player's character became an NPC on retirement even if its player was still in the game; and that would never fly here given that we cycle characters in and out of parties all the time.</blockquote>

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