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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9280201" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Why do you feel that the player <strong>A:</strong> deserves to seize control of the GM's game world by either controlling an NPC that comes up <strong>B:</strong> forcing the GM to retcon history & past events in their game world <strong>-OR-</strong> <strong>C:</strong> forcing the GM to freeze sections of their game world in carbonite without needing to express that expectation? All of those are very much far outside any sort of authority normally granted to a player. The GM is generally expected to maintain some level of continuity to the point that the DMG even discusses it, maintaining continuity without granting A or B to the player requires the GM to give the player C</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not just table. Can you point to any section of the PHB DMG or some other d&d5e book suggesting that a player has a player A B or C authority? Before you answer, a statement like "well the GM could change it so some other NPC takes the place of that retired PC" has been raised already in the thread and itis literally authority C. I'd be interested to hear book pagenumber & probably enough detail to find the section you feel grants a player one or more of those.</p><p></p><p>It's easy to ask the GM to have that retired PC sever ties with the world so they never show up "bob appoints $othernpc as leader of the local flowershop guild and goes off never to be seen again". I gave two examples of an actual player trying to seize A B or C back in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9279226" target="_blank">post94</a>. Bob's interest in the retired PC was literally to use it for extra perks or metagamed information, asking his PC to sever ties or give him one of more from A/B/C is no disruption whatsoever. Alice <em>could</em> claim that asking it would disrupt her fanfic or out of game "<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_1SK0I_sM" target="_blank">roleplaying</a>" if she had to ask me to sever her retied PC's ties with the world, but doesn't have much of a leg on that given that she never asked the GM permission & would have been told to find some other table if she did & expressed an expectation of A B or C.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9280201, member: 93670"] Why do you feel that the player [B]A:[/B] deserves to seize control of the GM's game world by either controlling an NPC that comes up [B]B:[/B] forcing the GM to retcon history & past events in their game world [B]-OR-[/B] [B]C:[/B] forcing the GM to freeze sections of their game world in carbonite without needing to express that expectation? All of those are very much far outside any sort of authority normally granted to a player. The GM is generally expected to maintain some level of continuity to the point that the DMG even discusses it, maintaining continuity without granting A or B to the player requires the GM to give the player C Not just table. Can you point to any section of the PHB DMG or some other d&d5e book suggesting that a player has a player A B or C authority? Before you answer, a statement like "well the GM could change it so some other NPC takes the place of that retired PC" has been raised already in the thread and itis literally authority C. I'd be interested to hear book pagenumber & probably enough detail to find the section you feel grants a player one or more of those. It's easy to ask the GM to have that retired PC sever ties with the world so they never show up "bob appoints $othernpc as leader of the local flowershop guild and goes off never to be seen again". I gave two examples of an actual player trying to seize A B or C back in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9279226']post94[/URL]. Bob's interest in the retired PC was literally to use it for extra perks or metagamed information, asking his PC to sever ties or give him one of more from A/B/C is no disruption whatsoever. Alice [I]could[/I] claim that asking it would disrupt her fanfic or out of game "[URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_1SK0I_sM']roleplaying[/URL]" if she had to ask me to sever her retied PC's ties with the world, but doesn't have much of a leg on that given that she never asked the GM permission & would have been told to find some other table if she did & expressed an expectation of A B or C. [/QUOTE]
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