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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9280697" data-attributes="member: 93670">does that ethical &amp; respectful not apply for &quot;and the players&quot; of the GM's boundaries?and?Here is a paragraph of&nbsp; lorum ipsum[spoiler]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Mauris lobortis, nibh ut sagittis commodo, lorem erat aliquet tortor, eget posuere nisi neque eu nisl. Nam tincidunt magna eu viverra elementum. Nullam vitae augue quis magna sollicitudin cursus et nec diam. Ut consequat leo eleifend neque viverra, nec maximus turpis faucibus. Nam urna libero, tincidunt et eros vel, tristique ornare augue. Sed lobortis euismod diam et bibendum. Pellentesque felis ante, consectetur nec iaculis a, aliquet ac mauris. Cras laoreet faucibus lobortis. Phasellus cursus, nibh ac scelerisque cursus, dolor orci lacinia leo, eget suscipit enim arcu porttitor leo. Sed blandit volutpat dolor in posuere. Sed ullamcorper ut leo sodales luctus. Vestibulum rhoncus ornare pharetra. Etiam vestibulum mollis malesuada.[/spoiler]Are we to guess the part you feel makes your case &amp; how it does so?You will see in that&nbsp; randomly(?) bolded quote where it also includes the words &quot;Session zero is the perfect time for you and the players to discuss&quot;.&nbsp; Since there is zero reason for a player to expect any of [spoiler=&quot;the following&quot;]<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A:&nbsp; A right to seize control of the GM's game world by personally choosing to control an NPC that comes up</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">B: A right to force the GM to retcon history &amp; past events in their game world</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">C: A right to force the GM to freeze sections of their game world in carbonite without needing to express that expectation?</li>
</ul>[/spoiler]it seems that&nbsp; a player with this particular red flag expectation (like my former player &quot;Alice&quot; described <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9279226" target="_blank">here</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9280201" target="_blank">here</a>) should take it upon themselves to make proactive use of that &quot;and the players&quot; to risk admitting what others could view as a red flag</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9280697, member: 93670"] does that ethical & respectful not apply for "and the players" of the GM's boundaries? and? Here is a paragraph of lorum ipsum [spoiler] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Mauris lobortis, nibh ut sagittis commodo, lorem erat aliquet tortor, eget posuere nisi neque eu nisl. Nam tincidunt magna eu viverra elementum. Nullam vitae augue quis magna sollicitudin cursus et nec diam. Ut consequat leo eleifend neque viverra, nec maximus turpis faucibus. Nam urna libero, tincidunt et eros vel, tristique ornare augue. Sed lobortis euismod diam et bibendum. Pellentesque felis ante, consectetur nec iaculis a, aliquet ac mauris. Cras laoreet faucibus lobortis. Phasellus cursus, nibh ac scelerisque cursus, dolor orci lacinia leo, eget suscipit enim arcu porttitor leo. Sed blandit volutpat dolor in posuere. Sed ullamcorper ut leo sodales luctus. Vestibulum rhoncus ornare pharetra. Etiam vestibulum mollis malesuada.[/spoiler] Are we to guess the part you feel makes your case & how it does so? You will see in that randomly(?) bolded quote where it also includes the words "Session zero is the perfect time for you [I][U][B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]and[/COLOR][/B][/U][/I][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] the players[/COLOR] to discuss". Since there is zero reason for a player to expect any of [spoiler="the following"] [LIST] [*][B]A:[/B] A right to seize control of the GM's game world by personally choosing to control an NPC that comes up [*][B]B:[/B] A right to force the GM to retcon history & past events in their game world [*][B]C:[/B] A right to force the GM to freeze sections of their game world in carbonite without needing to express that expectation? [/LIST] [/spoiler] it seems that a player with this particular red flag expectation (like my former player "Alice" described [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9279226']here[/URL] & [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/who-%E2%80%9Cowns%E2%80%9D-a-pc-after-the-player-stops-using-them.702898/post-9280201']here[/URL]) should take it upon themselves to make proactive use of that "and the players" to risk admitting what others could view as a red flag [/QUOTE]

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