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<blockquote data-quote="Marimmar" data-source="post: 1847761" data-attributes="member: 1789"><p>I really cannot believe what Hyp and Patryn are doing here. This is deliberately misinterpreting a rule to an extend that it doesn't make sense anymore, or worse allows for abuse.</p><p></p><p>Two archers each 30' apart, facing each other with a target between them do not flank a target exactly in the middle between them because:</p><p></p><p>1) Sentence 1 of the Flanking entry in the SRD gives the definition for Flanking rule. Sentence 2 and 3 are an explanation to sentence 1 not a definition. This is analogue to the other rules in the game, thus IMHO switching the definition with the explanation is not viable. This is even further confirmed by the fact that sentence 2-3 are separated from sentence 1 and the beginning of sentence 2, 'When in doubt...'</p><p></p><p>2) You cannot differentiate between Flanking and a Flanking Bonus because Flanking is just a Combat Modifier not a Condition, otherwise you would find an entry in the Conditions section of the SRD. Thus we find that it is just a modifier for melee attackers as per the table, just like being on high ground.</p><p></p><p>So no flanking for ranged attackers.</p><p></p><p>A question: Can reach weapon wielding companions set up a flanking position? IIRC according to the PHB examples it would be possible, according to the letter of the SRD Flanking rule it seems that you have to be touching your enemy's base to offer a flanking bonus to your friend.</p><p></p><p>~Marimmar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marimmar, post: 1847761, member: 1789"] I really cannot believe what Hyp and Patryn are doing here. This is deliberately misinterpreting a rule to an extend that it doesn't make sense anymore, or worse allows for abuse. Two archers each 30' apart, facing each other with a target between them do not flank a target exactly in the middle between them because: 1) Sentence 1 of the Flanking entry in the SRD gives the definition for Flanking rule. Sentence 2 and 3 are an explanation to sentence 1 not a definition. This is analogue to the other rules in the game, thus IMHO switching the definition with the explanation is not viable. This is even further confirmed by the fact that sentence 2-3 are separated from sentence 1 and the beginning of sentence 2, 'When in doubt...' 2) You cannot differentiate between Flanking and a Flanking Bonus because Flanking is just a Combat Modifier not a Condition, otherwise you would find an entry in the Conditions section of the SRD. Thus we find that it is just a modifier for melee attackers as per the table, just like being on high ground. So no flanking for ranged attackers. A question: Can reach weapon wielding companions set up a flanking position? IIRC according to the PHB examples it would be possible, according to the letter of the SRD Flanking rule it seems that you have to be touching your enemy's base to offer a flanking bonus to your friend. ~Marimmar [/QUOTE]
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