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<blockquote data-quote="Azzy" data-source="post: 8105178" data-attributes="member: 6563">They problem comes to actually verifying these earlier attestations, though. Thus far, there is no record of its usage in Dragon magazine (perhaps other TTRPG magazines should also be searched), or on Usenet prior to that date. If its usage were widespread, there should be some sort of footprint to follow. That's not to say that there wasn't earlier usages, or that I don't (or others shouldn't) believe your recollections*, but so far there's nothing that's been added that is actually verifiable.Also, I believe that prior to the closing of the WotC forums there was an attempt to archive them. I don't know what became of that, but I do know that some ENWorlders participated in that. Perhaps [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] would know more about that. Speaking of the WotC forums, there may have been some loss between the original forums and the trasision to Gleemax. Also, there's no telling what's been lost of the email lists of yore (I think there was an official D&amp;D one that I was a part of prior to WotC's forums). Then there's when TSR had a presence on AOL. I have no idea of how much of that has been archived or is still retrievable. I do think that those that want to curate the history of D&amp;D and TTRPGs in general need to look into that before it slips further into the past.*Though our memories can sometimes be wrong (see <a href="http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/False_memory" target="_blank">False Memories</a>).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Azzy, post: 8105178, member: 6563"] They problem comes to actually verifying these earlier attestations, though. Thus far, there is no record of its usage in Dragon magazine (perhaps other TTRPG magazines should also be searched), or on Usenet prior to that date. If its usage were widespread, there should be some sort of footprint to follow. That's not to say that there wasn't earlier usages, or that I don't (or others shouldn't) believe your recollections*, but so far there's nothing that's been added that is actually [I]verifiable[/I]. Also, I believe that prior to the closing of the WotC forums there was an attempt to archive them. I don't know what became of that, but I do know that some ENWorlders participated in that. Perhaps [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] would know more about that. Speaking of the WotC forums, there may have been some loss between the original forums and the trasision to Gleemax. Also, there's no telling what's been lost of the email lists of yore (I think there was an official D&D one that I was a part of prior to WotC's forums). Then there's when TSR had a presence on AOL. I have no idea of how much of that has been archived or is still retrievable. I do think that those that want to curate the history of D&D and TTRPGs in general need to look into that before it slips further into the past. *Though our memories can sometimes be wrong (see [URL='http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/False_memory']False Memories[/URL]). [/QUOTE]

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