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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 2509561" data-attributes="member: 8158">FR and Greyhawk are not terribly accessable either. D&D's got a lot of inbred concepts that just don't mesh with high adventure. Too many super-powers, not enough consequences. And of course, 3rd-party products aren't germaine to what I was talking about. "In your face", huh? So it's not just high fantasy, it's extreme fantasy. Which is what I said about Eberron before. So why isn't it what I think it is?Your disagreement is so extreme that it actually appears to be agreement.Exactly. It's inbred to hell and back. Obviously? Where did that word spring out from, Joe? You have some way to gauge all the folks that could become engrossed in D&D but are turned away by the over-the-top silliness of its conventions?  Which, of course, assumes that all gamers are experienced gamers that can putz and tinker (and want to). Pretty fallacious. All the folks clamouring about how great it is that D&D has little resemblance to the fiction that might inspire someone to pick up a PHB are really kidding themselves if they think that's healthy for the growth of the game. It's "unrealistic"?Oh man, it really is inevitable with any discussion involving Eberron--the obligatory battery of movie references that have little to do with Eberron. D&D doesn't really resemble any of those movies, or anything else a potential gamer can readily identify with. Instead, it's modeled after the power-fantasy rush of video games that an RPG is too slow to compete with.Not in D&D you don't.</blockquote>

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