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<blockquote data-quote="mhensley" data-source="post: 3347784" data-attributes="member: 1604"><p>1. It's free. It's a lot easier to get a group to try a new system if they don't have to buy anything.</p><p></p><p>2. It's more innovative than C&C, IMO. I like it's spell point system and higher hp's at 1st level a lot.</p><p></p><p>3. It doesn't really do anything that I couldn't do by just playing AD&D or Basic D&D. And I can get those for free by playing BFRPG or OSRIC.</p><p></p><p>4. Some of the rules in C&C seem poorly thought out. The encumbrance rules are one that stick out. The lack of multiclassing rules. The lack of rate of fire rules for missile weapons. Also, some of the spells don't seem balanced. It's a design by committee and it shows.</p><p></p><p>5. But mainly it's because I am totally not impressed with TLG as a company. Everything that I have bought from them (C&C or d20) has been very poorly edited and laid out. If I want non-professional products, I'll stick with free stuff. Most free rpg's I've looked at lately have better production values than what TLG expects me to pay for. Yes, I know the 2nd printing of the phb is better, but I ain't paying for what is essentially the same book twice.</p><p></p><p>p.s.- I also hate the term "Castle Keeper". Everyone I played with thought it was lame and laughed at it. YMMV</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhensley, post: 3347784, member: 1604"] 1. It's free. It's a lot easier to get a group to try a new system if they don't have to buy anything. 2. It's more innovative than C&C, IMO. I like it's spell point system and higher hp's at 1st level a lot. 3. It doesn't really do anything that I couldn't do by just playing AD&D or Basic D&D. And I can get those for free by playing BFRPG or OSRIC. 4. Some of the rules in C&C seem poorly thought out. The encumbrance rules are one that stick out. The lack of multiclassing rules. The lack of rate of fire rules for missile weapons. Also, some of the spells don't seem balanced. It's a design by committee and it shows. 5. But mainly it's because I am totally not impressed with TLG as a company. Everything that I have bought from them (C&C or d20) has been very poorly edited and laid out. If I want non-professional products, I'll stick with free stuff. Most free rpg's I've looked at lately have better production values than what TLG expects me to pay for. Yes, I know the 2nd printing of the phb is better, but I ain't paying for what is essentially the same book twice. p.s.- I also hate the term "Castle Keeper". Everyone I played with thought it was lame and laughed at it. YMMV [/QUOTE]
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