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<blockquote data-quote="rogueattorney" data-source="post: 3357492" data-attributes="member: 17551"><p>I'm a 1e/OD&D/B/XD&D fan, who's not a 3e player, who was really looking forward to C&C when it was announced. Unfortunately, it doesn't quite ring my bell.</p><p></p><p>I think it's a case of being too far from my preferred versions of D&D to get me to go through the effort of switching over, but too close to my preferred versions of D&D to justify playing in addition to D&D, if that makes any sense.</p><p></p><p>From a game mechanics standpoint, it's really not that similar to O(A)D&D. It basically stripped out all the little fiddly sub-systems that (to me, at least) formed the basis of O(A)D&D's mechanics and replaced it with a unified system. That's not necessarily a bad thing... it's just different from what I like in my D&D. If I had to equate it with any version of D&D, I'd equate it with 2e, but that has more to do with the editorial tone of the writing and the seeming presumed playing style (story-telling instead of gamist) than the actual rules.</p><p></p><p>While I won't go so far as to say I dislike C&C, there are about a dozen rpgs, both in print and out, that I'd rather run before it. I certainly wouldn't have a problem if a GM wanted to run it, and will say this... I'd run and play it before I'd run 3e.</p><p></p><p>My favorite C&C product is, without question, the "Nostalgia" Boxed set, which I see as a nice take on a 21st. C. version of the original OD&D rules. It's wide open for interpretations, very basic, with very few built in setting assumptions. (I love the one sentence spell descriptions.) It also has the bonus of being imbued with that "small-press" made in somebody's basement as a labor of love feel that I get from 1970's rpg products. [Actually, just typing this last paragraph reminds me of why I was so excited about C&C coming out 2 years ago, and makes me think I should break it out again and give it another look...]</p><p></p><p>Even though I was dissapointed in the larger rule set, I was hoping that the adventures would be nice source materials for my OOP D&D games. Thus far, I've also been pretty dissapointed with the adventures I've seen. I think the Rising Knight, which came with the boxed set and has an expanded version free in .pdf, is the best of the adventures of the admitedly small sampling I've seen. The rest have left me... blah. As conversion projects go, I like Goodman's DCCs better, despite the much greater effort. (I haven't yet got ahold of the DCC C&C conversions.)</p><p></p><p>I hear good things about the Crater of Umeshti, though. I'm very interested to see what James Mishler's Wilderlands project looks like. And, of course, I continue to hope that Castle Gr... er... Zagyg eventually sees the light of day and that it lives up to one one-hundredth of the hype and expectation that has gone with the project.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rogueattorney, post: 3357492, member: 17551"] I'm a 1e/OD&D/B/XD&D fan, who's not a 3e player, who was really looking forward to C&C when it was announced. Unfortunately, it doesn't quite ring my bell. I think it's a case of being too far from my preferred versions of D&D to get me to go through the effort of switching over, but too close to my preferred versions of D&D to justify playing in addition to D&D, if that makes any sense. From a game mechanics standpoint, it's really not that similar to O(A)D&D. It basically stripped out all the little fiddly sub-systems that (to me, at least) formed the basis of O(A)D&D's mechanics and replaced it with a unified system. That's not necessarily a bad thing... it's just different from what I like in my D&D. If I had to equate it with any version of D&D, I'd equate it with 2e, but that has more to do with the editorial tone of the writing and the seeming presumed playing style (story-telling instead of gamist) than the actual rules. While I won't go so far as to say I dislike C&C, there are about a dozen rpgs, both in print and out, that I'd rather run before it. I certainly wouldn't have a problem if a GM wanted to run it, and will say this... I'd run and play it before I'd run 3e. My favorite C&C product is, without question, the "Nostalgia" Boxed set, which I see as a nice take on a 21st. C. version of the original OD&D rules. It's wide open for interpretations, very basic, with very few built in setting assumptions. (I love the one sentence spell descriptions.) It also has the bonus of being imbued with that "small-press" made in somebody's basement as a labor of love feel that I get from 1970's rpg products. [Actually, just typing this last paragraph reminds me of why I was so excited about C&C coming out 2 years ago, and makes me think I should break it out again and give it another look...] Even though I was dissapointed in the larger rule set, I was hoping that the adventures would be nice source materials for my OOP D&D games. Thus far, I've also been pretty dissapointed with the adventures I've seen. I think the Rising Knight, which came with the boxed set and has an expanded version free in .pdf, is the best of the adventures of the admitedly small sampling I've seen. The rest have left me... blah. As conversion projects go, I like Goodman's DCCs better, despite the much greater effort. (I haven't yet got ahold of the DCC C&C conversions.) I hear good things about the Crater of Umeshti, though. I'm very interested to see what James Mishler's Wilderlands project looks like. And, of course, I continue to hope that Castle Gr... er... Zagyg eventually sees the light of day and that it lives up to one one-hundredth of the hype and expectation that has gone with the project. [/QUOTE]
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