Who gave up on shipping to Amazon?

[Heretic Apostate]

I'd like this thread to be a place where publishers inform the general public that they'll no longer be shipping to Amazon. I feel this is necessary because, in the past, I've had orders delayed for as much as a month, because Amazon was unable to complete the order due to the fact that the publisher has discontinued providing stock to Amazon.

To start the ball rolling, I'll post the one publisher I know no longer ships to Amazon:

Eden Studios

Bastion Press

Edit: Looks like Bastion Press gets added to the list. In the Green went from a 30% discount, ship in 24 hours to no discount, special order, 2-3 weeks. (Luckily, I still get the 30% discount, but it's slowing down my order of UA...)

 

[thundershot]

*cocks eyebrow*

I've never had a problem with Amazon...



Chris

 

[Heretic Apostate]

Thunder: Are you talking as an Amazon customer or vendor?

As a customer, I've had orders delayed by a month, until I found out that vendors were no longer shipping to Amazon, and I cancelled that portion of my order.

Eden Studios, for instance, had problems with the timeliness (or lack thereof) with which Amazon pays off its vendors. Thus, they stopped shipping to Amazon. (As mentioned in the threads following the release of Fields of Blood.)

So I'm just trying to get one thread where publishers can say, "Yep. We stopped shipping to Amazon."

Helps me know when to buy from someone else, rather than from Amazon.

 

[Psion]

Helps me know when to buy from someone else, rather than from Amazon.

Personally, I make it a blanket policy.

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

Personally, I make it a blanket policy.

So do I except when they have something for 60% off. I broke down and ordered Complete Warrior, it beat my employee discount by 100% (my discount is 30%) and with a 30% off Anger of Angels I got free shipping. That is tough to beat even with my restricted buying this year.

 

[Heretic Apostate]

Added another Publisher to the list of "Amazon doesn't carry any more."

Anyone know of any others?

 

[Jim Butler]

I'd like this thread to be a place where publishers inform the general public that they'll no longer be shipping to Amazon. I feel this is necessary because, in the past, I've had orders delayed for as much as a month, because Amazon was unable to complete the order due to the fact that the publisher has discontinued providing stock to Amazon.

To start the ball rolling, I'll post the one publisher I know no longer ships to Amazon:

Eden Studios

Bastion Press

Edit: Looks like Bastion Press gets added to the list. In the Green went from a 30% discount, ship in 24 hours to no discount, special order, 2-3 weeks. (Luckily, I still get the 30% discount, but it's slowing down my order of UA...)

We still ship to Amazon, but their order cycle changes after a product has been available for a month or so. They initially stock some to meet demand, then move to a "tell the publisher we need one to fill an order" model. It's the Just-in-Time inventory model that's bad for everyone, but there's not much we can do about it. They return products you send to them for storage, even if you agree not to charge them until it's sold.

Regular hobby distributors are doing this a lot more now (though most always make sure to keep a few on hand to meet an impulse buy). It's causing many publishers (like Bastion) to cut back on the amount of products we print, which cuts the lifecycle of a product down, which makes it harder for latecomers to find older products. Expect this to get much worse as publishers keep taking on more and more of the risks involved in printing and storing products.

 

[JoeGKushner]

But that's just not the stores like Amazon that are doing that. Working in a place that makes gaskets, it's everywhere that it possibly can be. Wal-Mart is famous for it's 'lean' inventory, and many automotive places are dying to use a true "JIT" (Just in Time) where the customer orders it and it's made for them within the day or three as opposed to keeping on hand stock.

It is a problem in many aspects as it becomes more difficult to accuratelly forecast demand when other events, such as super sales or something of that nature, hits. The real people that companies should not be hitting up on are the printers.

That's the way things work like that are my place. We distribute it, so we don't want to carry any supply more then a few days so we make demands of the packaging department, who makes demands of the manufacturing department. If you're unable to force change higher up the chain, you will be in a world of hurt as you've noted that now you're the one paying for the majority of everything.

 

[Heretic Apostate]

The general reason I created this thread was to list all the publishers that don't ship to Amazon. But I think I'll expand it to a list of all publishers that we gain no benefit from ordering from Amazon.

If I have to wait two to three weeks, and still pay full price, I might as well go through Talon, because at least he'll give a 15% discount.