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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4532012" data-attributes="member: 70778">Tim was an enchanter? My VCR no longer works and haven't found that to upgrade to DVD so recall very little about Tim actually except he does not even know his own favorite color.Conan, and Fafhad I know of...Conan moreso, and see and think in terms of Mako as the wizard when thinking more old world magic, and he specifically used more than just mental power.As with mention of the sci-fi, I think that is where the genre breaks down and separates and have found little liking for anything mixing magic and tech too much. Psionics that do not rely on components seem more to be an extension of the divine, and that is a far enough split for magic and metaphysics in general. Otherwise you could end up with a list of magic, for lack of a better name than that used in 4th edition, power sources as long as your leg.But then most of those come from that of 2 places. The world around you, and the gods.Druidic nature magic uses both nature and godly magic in order to perform its abilities.So where do psionics really lie and are they needed and explainable as a difference from what is now known as arcane and divine magic?As Raistlin said: &quot;I am wresting power from the very fabric of the universe, not drawing it from the gods.&quot;So where does psionics fit in at all?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4532012, member: 70778"] Tim was an enchanter? My VCR no longer works and haven't found that to upgrade to DVD so recall very little about Tim actually except he does not even know his own favorite color. Conan, and Fafhad I know of...Conan moreso, and see and think in terms of Mako as the wizard when thinking more old world magic, and he specifically used more than just mental power. As with mention of the sci-fi, I think that is where the genre breaks down and separates and have found little liking for anything mixing magic and tech too much. Psionics that do not rely on components seem more to be an extension of the divine, and that is a far enough split for magic and metaphysics in general. Otherwise you could end up with a list of magic, for lack of a better name than that used in 4th edition, power sources as long as your leg. But then most of those come from that of 2 places. The world around you, and the gods. Druidic nature magic uses both nature and godly magic in order to perform its abilities. So where do psionics really lie and are they needed and explainable as a difference from what is now known as arcane and divine magic? As Raistlin said: "I am wresting power from the very fabric of the universe, not drawing it from the gods." So where does psionics fit in at all? [/QUOTE]

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