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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thommy H-H" data-source="post: 9762169" data-attributes="member: 6797019">Well, you started by claiming the set didn't even include the rules for how to play the game, which is demonstrably false. I'm still not clear on the confusion over the spell save DCs, since they're right there on the character boards - you just didn't spot them somehow. I'm not sure that's a problem with the product itself or evidence of its unsuitability for novices. And everything you've told us about the game you ran seems to indicate that you showed up without doing any kind of prep, totally unfamiliar with the components and the included instructions (since you didn't think there were any), then spent half an hour figuring it all out. Which, you know, is pretty good going! It's just better to do that before the actual session imo.Oh, also I'm quite confused about the thing where you say you watched videos to figure out how to play because there weren't any rules! Because you're an experienced DM, so don't you already know the rules? I could see the (mistaken) belief that rules weren't included being a mark against it in an objective sense, but for you personally, what was the problem?</blockquote>