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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9762622" data-attributes="member: 4348">One of the BIG points of my post (maybe I didn't make it clear enough) was that the Starter Set did such a bad job of introducing players how to play it would have been far easier (and less time consuming since I am familiar with the rules already on my part) that instead of giving each new player their own starter set to set up their characters so we could be good to go and start playing right when I got there would have been to simply just buy the PHB for each of them.With how much time we spent getting things sorted out with the Starter Set it would have been far less time consuming to use the PHB than the Starter Set.  That was it, that was my comment and what my OP really went to in conclusion.In addition, I feel the PHB explains things a LOT better and more clearly for beginning players to understand what is what for their character.I've also reiterated that once or twice in this thread.I could add in this post (as in this is a new thought in retrospect, it was not in other posts I have made in this thread) as an additional comment that there would be other bonuses to this.  I did not say this originally, but now looking in retrospect, with how the game differentiates between ability score presentations and racial presentations, reading the first dozen pages of the PHB would have a similar time commitment (though no promises that they would have characters made up as I would not expect them to get into the actual character creation portion if I did this, and they probably wouldn't delve into the Class options, just the sections prior) and when spinning up could go faster (as in writing options down rather than searching through cards).  They'd have a better understanding of the full game better.  One more reason to say the Starter Set is worthless for beginners in my eyes in comparison, the Starter Set gives no advantages for a new Player over the PHB from what I can see currently.PS:  Seeing everyone's response and defending the Starter Set in relation to my comment in comparison to the PHB makes it pretty obvious to me that they would prefer the Starter Set over it.  I just prefer the PHB by a longshot at this point.Edit: PHB is the same cost as well, so my advice is to skip the Starter Set with a New player and just always...ALWAYS go for the PHB instead.</blockquote>

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