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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9763368" data-attributes="member: 59816">It's a case-by-case thing, but in this case it's kind of like what [USER=59057]@UngeheuerLich[/USER] says above. If you say &quot;It's overpriced&quot;, you're going to get pushback, because, like I told you in an earlier post - It's a LOSS LEADER. It costs WotC more than most other products to produce! It's factually underpriced.OTOH, had you said, &quot;I wouldn't want to pay as much as they are asking&quot; or &quot;I don't think it's worth it for me&quot; then no one would ever think to argue with you.I mean, you eventually explained much of that, sure - but you started from a firm statement of (incorrect) fact.The OP (in particular the Thread Title) has the same issue. Who is the Starter made for? It most certainly IS made for New Players, but also anyone who wants to use it. Had the thread been titled, &quot;I used HotB to teach D&amp;D. It did not go well.&quot; And went on to tell much of the same story, we might have had a different tone here.It still would have been pointed out that the group missed a whole bunch of things that seem like they should have caught, but we'd all have been a lot more sympathetic!<h4></h4></blockquote>

[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9763368, member: 59816"] It's a case-by-case thing, but in this case it's kind of like what [USER=59057]@UngeheuerLich[/USER] says above. If you say "It's overpriced", you're going to get pushback, because, like I told you in an earlier post - It's a LOSS LEADER. It costs WotC more than most other products to produce! It's factually [I]underpriced[/I]. OTOH, had you said, "I wouldn't want to pay as much as they are asking" or "I don't think it's worth it for me" then no one would ever think to argue with you. I mean, you [I]eventually[/I] explained much of that, sure - but you started from a firm statement of (incorrect) fact. The OP (in particular the Thread Title) has the same issue. Who is the Starter made for? It most certainly IS made for New Players, but also anyone who wants to use it. Had the thread been titled, "I used HotB to teach D&D. It did not go well." And went on to tell much of the same story, we might have had a different tone here. It still would have been pointed out that the group missed a whole bunch of things that seem like they should have caught, but we'd all have been a lot more sympathetic! [HEADING=3][/HEADING] [/QUOTE]

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