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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7676592" data-attributes="member: 2525">What's funny is that's my point - of course it's not outsourcing.&nbsp; But why? It meets your definition.&nbsp; That means your definition must be flawed.&nbsp; Because using an outside company to produce your paper is in fact hiring an outside company to buy from them a component that goes into your end product.&nbsp; Right.&nbsp; But was &quot;the product&quot; outsourced then? When Crawford says WOTC wrote content for the product as well, was &quot;the product&quot; outsourced? At some point there has to be room for a joint venture.&nbsp; If the meaning of a joint venture cannot exist at the same time as the definition of outsourcing, then a different definition of outsourcing is best for this context - one which allows for a joint venture as a separate thing from an outsourced product.Pretty sure that yes, this is a semantics debate.&nbsp; You say it's outsourcing, he says it's a joint venture (cooperative effort), and discussion is going to revolve around the meaning of those two terms (semantics).&nbsp; Not sure how to escape semantics in this kind of debate.&nbsp; Can you think of a way of avoiding it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7676592, member: 2525"] What's funny is that's my point - of course it's not outsourcing. But why? It meets your definition. That means your definition must be flawed. Because using an outside company to produce your paper is in fact hiring an outside company to buy from them a component that goes into your end product. Right. But was "the product" outsourced then? When Crawford says WOTC wrote content for the product as well, was "the product" outsourced? At some point there has to be room for a joint venture. If the meaning of a joint venture cannot exist at the same time as the definition of outsourcing, then a different definition of outsourcing is best for this context - one which allows for a joint venture as a separate thing from an outsourced product. Pretty sure that yes, this is a semantics debate. You say it's outsourcing, he says it's a joint venture (cooperative effort), and discussion is going to revolve around the meaning of those two terms (semantics). Not sure how to escape semantics in this kind of debate. Can you think of a way of avoiding it? [/QUOTE]

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