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<blockquote data-quote="occam" data-source="post: 7676841" data-attributes="member: 39815"><p>That's a good question. Here's the deal, from my PoV. Calling something "doublespeak" (a word which is doublespeak for "lies") is something you can do based on facts. If a company representative tells you "Smoking is good for you, it doesn't cause lung cancer!", you can call them on it. You can point to scientific studies, to company memos, etc. to prove your point that the person is being deceptive.</p><p></p><p>That's not what Jeremy did. He attempted to bring clarity to the issue by providing more detail about how these business relationships work, because some have mistaken impressions that WotC is "not really writing their own books" anymore, in some way that's fundamentally different than before. I don't think anyone is arguing against the facts he presented, they're criticizing his use of language. For that, he was accused of engaging in doublespeak, of being a liar; WotC was "called on it" for supposedly being deceptive. How does that make sense?</p><p></p><p>So this whole thing has been a pointless argument over semantics, about whether everyone has the exact same understanding of the word "outsourcing", with all its connotations. Denying that there are negative connotations associated with that word in present-day culture is either honest ignorance or disingenuousness; I won't presume to ascribe either to anyone in particular. But I think what people cared about discussing was the level of WotC's involvement in recent D&D products, and what ended up mostly being discussed, and what generated the ill feelings and occasional insults, was the definition of a word.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="occam, post: 7676841, member: 39815"] That's a good question. Here's the deal, from my PoV. Calling something "doublespeak" (a word which is doublespeak for "lies") is something you can do based on facts. If a company representative tells you "Smoking is good for you, it doesn't cause lung cancer!", you can call them on it. You can point to scientific studies, to company memos, etc. to prove your point that the person is being deceptive. That's not what Jeremy did. He attempted to bring clarity to the issue by providing more detail about how these business relationships work, because some have mistaken impressions that WotC is "not really writing their own books" anymore, in some way that's fundamentally different than before. I don't think anyone is arguing against the facts he presented, they're criticizing his use of language. For that, he was accused of engaging in doublespeak, of being a liar; WotC was "called on it" for supposedly being deceptive. How does that make sense? So this whole thing has been a pointless argument over semantics, about whether everyone has the exact same understanding of the word "outsourcing", with all its connotations. Denying that there are negative connotations associated with that word in present-day culture is either honest ignorance or disingenuousness; I won't presume to ascribe either to anyone in particular. But I think what people cared about discussing was the level of WotC's involvement in recent D&D products, and what ended up mostly being discussed, and what generated the ill feelings and occasional insults, was the definition of a word. [/QUOTE]
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