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<blockquote data-quote="Bullgrit" data-source="post: 5029324" data-attributes="member: 31216"><p>I wonder how much of the uncool stigma we as grown men placed on ourselves.</p><p></p><p>When 25-30 year old women look back on what they did as 13-14 year old girls, it's all cute, fun, maybe even silly (in a cute and fun way). On average, in general, an adult woman would think it adorable to sit down and play with some 13-14 year old girls for an hour.</p><p></p><p>When 25-30 year old men look back on what they did as 13-14 year old boys, it's all dumb, dorky, useless (in a dumb and dorky way). On average, in general, an adult man would think it horrible to sit down and play with some 13-14 year old boys for an hour.</p><p></p><p>Was playing D&D in the late 70s to early 80s actually considered uncool <em>at the time</em>? The only negative I remember experiencing at the time I was playing the game as a teenager (in the 80s) was the "Satanic" stigma. I think the first instances I experienced of "D&D is uncool" came about in the 90s. The 90s when the teens of the 80s were graduating college and joining the "real world."</p><p></p><p>Think of this:</p><p>A 30 year old person is sitting on a bench reading <em>The Chronicles of Narnia.</em></p><p></p><p>What would an average 30 year old man think of that reader? What would an average 30 year old woman think of that reader? Would the thoughts be different if the reader were a man or a woman?</p><p></p><p>I think the man would be more likely to consider the reader a nerd or dork. Not because there's anything inherently nerdy or dorky about that book, but because the guy would be like, "Yeah, that was a good book <em>when I was twelve</em>. Ha ha."</p><p></p><p>The woman would probably say something like, "Oh I loved that book."</p><p></p><p>Again, in the general populace, things boys do at a young age is to be demeaned. Things girls do at a young age is to be revered. </p><p></p><p>And since most D&D gamers have been male through the years, and most move on to other things (they say "out grow it"), the D&D games they did as boys is said to be uncool.</p><p></p><p>So, in essence, men ended up calling the game uncool when they looked back on it. Men in the 90s started the "D&D of the 80s was uncool" movement. It was a retroactive curse.</p><p></p><p>Bullgrit</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullgrit, post: 5029324, member: 31216"] I wonder how much of the uncool stigma we as grown men placed on ourselves. When 25-30 year old women look back on what they did as 13-14 year old girls, it's all cute, fun, maybe even silly (in a cute and fun way). On average, in general, an adult woman would think it adorable to sit down and play with some 13-14 year old girls for an hour. When 25-30 year old men look back on what they did as 13-14 year old boys, it's all dumb, dorky, useless (in a dumb and dorky way). On average, in general, an adult man would think it horrible to sit down and play with some 13-14 year old boys for an hour. Was playing D&D in the late 70s to early 80s actually considered uncool [i]at the time[/i]? The only negative I remember experiencing at the time I was playing the game as a teenager (in the 80s) was the "Satanic" stigma. I think the first instances I experienced of "D&D is uncool" came about in the 90s. The 90s when the teens of the 80s were graduating college and joining the "real world." Think of this: A 30 year old person is sitting on a bench reading [i]The Chronicles of Narnia.[/i] What would an average 30 year old man think of that reader? What would an average 30 year old woman think of that reader? Would the thoughts be different if the reader were a man or a woman? I think the man would be more likely to consider the reader a nerd or dork. Not because there's anything inherently nerdy or dorky about that book, but because the guy would be like, "Yeah, that was a good book [i]when I was twelve[/i]. Ha ha." The woman would probably say something like, "Oh I loved that book." Again, in the general populace, things boys do at a young age is to be demeaned. Things girls do at a young age is to be revered. And since most D&D gamers have been male through the years, and most move on to other things (they say "out grow it"), the D&D games they did as boys is said to be uncool. So, in essence, men ended up calling the game uncool when they looked back on it. Men in the 90s started the "D&D of the 80s was uncool" movement. It was a retroactive curse. Bullgrit [/QUOTE]
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